January 5, 2009

Liberal and feminist women more likely to want kids to be popular

Liberals and feminists are supposed to transcend competitive status games, and value people for who they truly are, right? Yeah, just as soon as they start sending their kids to mediocre public schools, rather than one-up the neighbors in number of Ivy League decals on their car.

The General Social Survey asks people how important certain qualities are "for a child to learn to prepare him or her for life" -- basically, traits you want your kids to have: obedience, courteousness, etc. One is "to be well liked or popular." So let's see who really moves beyond popularity. Here is the percent of women who rated popularity the least important quality, by political orientation and whether or not they consider themselves feminists:

Not caring about kids' popularity increases as you go from extremely liberal to conservative women, with extremely conservative women scoring about what moderates do. Spearman's rank correlation is +0.78, p two-tailed = 0.058 (due to the extremely conservative women being marginally lower than conservatives). The same holds for feminist vs. non-feminist women. (Two-proportion z-test, equal variances, gives z = 2.52, p two-tailed = 0.012.)

So, the more liberal and feminist a woman is, the more likely she is to value popularity -- i.e., high status or dominance -- in kids. Interestingly, men are also more likely than women to value popularity in kids. * So we have yet another case of liberal, feminist women resembling men. You can imagine what it would be like to have one as the mother of your kids, constantly breathing down their -- and your -- necks to make sure they dominate everything. Little do they know that parental pressure won't make a kid any more popular -- although if your friends and schoolmates found out that your mom's a fucking psycho, it could certainly lower your popularity.

Final judgement: good for a screw or two, but after that, someone else can keep 'em.

* Data not shown, as they say, but easy to check for yourself.



  1. Yet more evidence that contemporary liberalism is largely about social status, as observed in various ways by Mencius Moldbug, Steve Sailer, Ilkka Kokkarinen, Tom Wolfe etc.

  2. And Whiskey.

    Yup Liberalism = Status Games.

  3. You offer one interpretation of "popularity," the mothers may be using another, e.g. popularity = being well-liked. Regardless, I wouldn't make too much out of this.


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