One of the few intellectual buzzwords of the dark ages of the 1990s that has not declined in usage is heteronormative, or judging queers by the standards of normals. As in, "Who says marriage should only apply to man and woman?" This concept is going to eventually run into trouble, though, because it concedes that there are vast differences between homo and hetero behavior; it only says we shouldn't use that as a basis for different treatment.
However, the main thrust of the argument for gay marriage, etc., is that They're Just Like Us behaviorally -- except for same-sex desire -- and so, on a similarity basis, they should get to do whatever we get to do.
The solution that the supporters seem to be arriving at is using the approach of "boo heteronormativity" among those who know the score about gay deviance (gays among themselves, for example), at a hush-hush level, and shouting They're Just Like Us when addressing a broader audience that is naive or defiantly ignorant about gay deviance (like the liberal majority who've never been to a gay club and seen bodies pile into the designated "dark room" for faceless fondling, fellating, and fucking).
Gays are of course profoundly different from normal men and women, and not only in ways that are irrelevant to issues like gay marriage, gay adoption, or whatever. Their striking differences make them even less eligible for such privileges. Here I'll just illustrate the most obvious and relevant -- that they don't have a nurturing instinct.
First, girls begin training for motherhood early on. They just can't wait to cultivate their maternal instincts. In our society, one of the first outlets they find for this urge is taking care of dolls as though they were real babies. This is a perfect test case for whether gays have a nurturing instinct, as they do commonly play with dolls and other girly toys when they're little. However, in all articles and reports I've ever read, it's only been the fashion and beauty dolls that they were drawn to. Maybe they like to imagine that someday they will be the one enjoying the spotlight of attention, making all those other bitches jealous by looking so fierce.
They never say that they like to play with a different kind of girl's doll -- the one that simulates childcare. And it's not because there aren't any in supply. A huge hit among young Baby Boomer girls was the Betsy Wetsy doll, which wet itself after being fed some liquid, requiring the girls to change her clothes. During the late '80s or early '90s, any TV show I watched that targeted both boys and girls would always run a commercial for this doll:
Apparently Baby Alive is still going strong, and now comes in a variety of lines. The fact that girls pester their parents into buying this stuff, let alone eagerly play with it, befuddles my male mind. What's so fun about feeding a baby and changing its diaper? Maybe you could, like, feed it blood and worms and stuff -- that might be cool. Baby Dead-Alive! Something like that is how you'd have to market it to boys.
At any rate, these dolls are all part of the universal female fascination with mothering. However, since gays didn't play with these kind of dolls when they were little, we conclude that, unlike females, they have no real interest in nurturing children. We know they tend to be interested in dolls and girl's toys in general, though, so we've "controlled for" that. It is specifically the nurturing role that turns gays off of Betsy Wetsy and Baby Alive.
Some gay men continue to collect dolls into adulthood, but again they are the fashion/beauty type, not the childcare type. "Ewww, like omigod, that is such a breeder's toy."
From taking care of dolls, little girls graduate to the real thing -- babysitting -- as early as middle school. That is, back when people still trusted each other enough to hire babysitters. They still make up the vast majority of nannies, au pairs, etc. I googled around and found no mention of a stereotype about gays being more likely to work as babysitters, unlike gay designers or hairstylists. Not from gays themselves, not from normal guys making fun of gay differences, and not from women praising gays for their differences.
There are some gays who babysit, but they must not be more likely than normal men, who babysit as well. One of my babysitters growing up was a high school dude who spent his time teaching me and my brothers the make and model of various sports cars (his was a Datsun 280ZX, with t-tops), showing us The Terminator on home video, and other stuff meant to show us the ropes of guy-ness. Obviously not maternal like my chick babysitters sometimes were. From what accounts of gay babysitters I read, it didn't sound like they were into it for maternal reasons either.
I've already brought it up, but the very term "breeder" reveals the contempt that faggots have toward family formation and child-rearing. Now that they're trying to push for mainstreaming their deviance, they can only use it among themselves, lest the rest of the society get wise to what little regard they have for marriage, family, childcare, and so on. Normal females, from young to adult, refer to women with offspring by the affectionate term "mommies," not a boorish slur like "breeders."
I know it must seem like a joke that someone is bothering to provide multiple examples to prove that gays have no nurturing instinct, but that's the sick world we live in. Young people especially have no idea what gays are like; they just "support their rights" from a distance. Just 20 years ago, your only response to someone saying that gays should be able to adopt would've been, "What are you, fucking retarded?" Everyone would have understood what you meant. Now the audience of any debate or argument you get into will want to hear specific examples, and it's better that we have them ready in that case. From childhood through old age, gay males have zero interest in nurturing children.
That raises the question of why the tiny number who do adopt make the choice? I reflected on that in the post below. Basically, to obtain a steady source of emotional validation, and on top of that the status contest points -- "I just dare you bigots to look at me funny for adopting." That must also be why they become teachers -- not to nurture, but to become the star performer before the audience of students. "They love me, they really love me!" When it comes time to feed and change a baby, though, forget about it. That kid is going to grow up in a home without a maternal figure.
I had always heard the term "heteronormative" used to mean "assuming that heterosexuality is the norm/default". Because of course IT IS!ReplyDelete
Kids raised buy gays will also lack a genuine paternal figure...ReplyDelete
Also, gays disproportionately commit child abuse
3:47 is probably a Moby troll.ReplyDelete
I sent your last post to my baby sister who is in nursing school. They had just discussed the Adam Walsh case and Otis Toole in class that day. There was no mention that Toole was gay and everything you said was a surprise. "Portrait of a Serial Killer" (late '80s movie) showed him as you described him.
Just to let you know, I'm gay. I currently babysit for two girls down the road from my street.ReplyDelete
Plus, I used to have one of those baby-feeding toys when I was little. So it seems your stereotyping dosen't fit me or my bisexual friend (who is also a babysitter). I'd also love to have kids when I'm older, and I'm sure I will. I've also never heard the word 'breeder' used by gay people. Ever.
Sorry to burst your bubble. :\
I already said there are gay babysitters, just no stereotype of them being particularly drawn to it anymore than straight males are.ReplyDelete
Quote any article or report that mentions little boys who are drawn to the baby-feeding dolls. They are always about the fashion/beauty dolls. That's the pattern.
If you've never heard gays use the word "breeder," then you're the one living in a bubble. Here some gay even advocates that they stop using it:
Of course lots of the commenters defend keeping it around:
"Breeders are too boring and stupid to be funny. Without homo jokes, most comedians would be out of a job and Telemundo would be off the air."
"breeders my favorite word we deserve to have an insult to use against them when they call us fags not that i approve of insults"
"I use the term Breeder frequently, in a derogatory sense."
Etc. Here's another one noting that a lot of the push for gay marriage and adoption is a smokescreen to become more approved by the mainstream, rather than pushing for say free AIDS drugs:
"What really needs to be phased out is gay celebrities having kids to make themselves more acceptable and relevant to breeder audiences… that really needs to be phased out."
So, what do you think about lesbians having children?ReplyDelete
I need to make a serious correction.ReplyDelete
The movie I saw was the hard-to-find "Confessions of a Serial Killer" from 1985. The other movie is widely known, but is a piece of garbage.
The one I saw was shown by a retired detective and cop in a class he taught; he chose it because he thought it was the most perfect movie ever made to depict real killers, and it just happened to be about Lucas and Toole. The more popular movie does exactly the opposite: the killers are way too thoughtful and get corrupted.
I agree with the detective. If you can find it, do so (ignore the cover of the re-release; they were trying to cash in on "Silence of the Lambs"). I had already read so much and seen my share of horror movies, but that one was something else. I made it a point to go to class early the next day just to tell him how it had changed me and we discussed it further.
Well, the problem with gays is that so many of them are assymetric, which is associated with mental illness.ReplyDelete
Um if you did any research you would find that not only do gay marriages statistically last longer but there is less child abuse. Gay couples who adopt also are more nurturing because they actually fully want the child no mistakes whatsoever. Check your facts before you make such outrageous claimsReplyDelete
Yep, the average gay not only wants to get married, but also wants to adopt. Check your counting skills next time.ReplyDelete
"less child abuse" from homosexuals? What a laugh. Homosexuals are enormously overrepresented among pedophiles. In fact, throughout history homosexual men have focused on children. Read any account of prostitution for homosexuals in the Roman Empire, they always wanted boys to violate. If they couldn't get boys, they wanted young adolescents who were as similar to small boys as possible. "Check your facts" LOLReplyDelete
You rely on stereotypes and anecdotes but none on actual evidence.ReplyDelete
Typical liberal argument. "Unless you have absolute proof you don't have the right to make any judgement". So lets throw away centuries of experience, events, and trends since none of has god-like omniscient powers to analyze every single human being, gay or otherwise.ReplyDelete
I can't provide absolute proof (any more than you or me can "prove" that your neighbor will never murder someone), but here's some stuff to chew on anyway. You want stats/reserach?
"A study of 518 sexually-tinged mass murders in the U.S. from 1966 to 1983 determined that 350 (68%) of the victims were killed by those who practiced homosexuality and that 19 (44%) of the 43 murderers were bisexuals or homosexuals.(2"
"Probing more deeply into the connection between murder and homosexuality, Jim Warren, who worked as a counselor at the Washington State Corrections Center, did the intake interview for almost all the younger murderers (i.e., under age 36) in the state of Washington from 1971-82 (during the growth of the gay rights movement). He was "probably the only one who examined the entirety of each of their case files." Warren testified (4) that he was struck with how frequently homosexuality turned up in the cases.
Starting with a trickle of 2 or 3 murders/year in 1972 until dozens/year by the 1980s, he noted a recurrent pattern: Although the motive listed in the report was often robbery or theft, "about 50% of the time" it was also associated with homosexuality. Typically, a homosexual would meet someone at a bar or park and invite him to his home. Before the morning, an argument would ensue and he or his visitor would be dead."
"A substantial minority of homosexuals (between 22% (5) to 37% (6,7) ) indulge in painful or violent sex (e.g., bondage and discipline [B/D], where the partner is physically restrained and mildly tortured, or sadomasochism [S/M], where partners are tortured or hurt during sex). Even in the 1940s, psychiatrist David Abrahamsen (8) noted, "It is well known that homosexual inclinations may be accompanied by sadistic or masochistic tendencies.... These perversions play a great part in many sexual offenses and in many cases of murder." In a national survey of random samples of homosexuals and heterosexuals, (7) 32% of those males who called themselves homosexual or bisexual versus 5% of heterosexual males reported having engaged in sadomasochism; 17% of lesbians versus 4% of heterosexual women also admitted to S/M. Likewise, gays and lesbians were about four times more apt to engage in bondage than were heterosexuals."
"In 1992 three London STD clinics reported that almost half of their homosexual patients who knew they were infected with HIV had then gotten rectal gonorrhoea. (14) These gays were not permitting their deadly infection to spoil their sexual fun. By 1993 over 100,000 U.S. gays had died of AIDS and tens of thousands had died of hepatitis B. Most of these had been infected, many deliberately or carelessly, by other homosexuals."
"More alarmingly, between 15% to 40% of statutory rape (child molestation) involves homosexuality. (19) In one study, 25% of white gays (18) admitted to sex with boys 16 or younger when they were aged 21 or older."
Assuming that Jacob was born after the mid 80's (the name is common with Millennials), he probably doesn't remember how hostile people were towards weirdos in the 80's/earlier 90's. When crime/violence was much more common back then, fags were a tougher sell. Now that people are more naive, you see idiots sobbing about gays not being able to get married, or adopt kids, or whatever. We need to wake up (or wake others up) but I'm afraid it's gonna take another crime wave for people to stop cheering on the pervs.