September 29, 2012

The pro-gay push as a surrogate Save The Children movement for childless women

Ever since I began trying to reduce all aspects of the gay universe down to their being socially and emotionally stunted in childhood, so many other pieces have been snapping into place.

For instance, women are somewhat more likely to support gay marriage than men,* but their outrage and defensive posturing is so much more extreme than men's when it comes to gay issues. Women are fairly apolitical, and only get that passionate when it comes to topics that strike at the individual woman herself and her kinship sphere, both real and figurative, where she plays a mothering role.

How do gays possibly fit into that narrow range of “the personal is political” issues?

Having observed countless fag hags and their gay BFFs during college and within the past several years, I now see that the female is indulging her maternal instinct with her Peter Pan friend. Aside from those mini-doggies that such women also choose as surrogate babies, you couldn't ask for a more childish grown-up for the woman to treat in a motherly, or at least big sisterly way. Your garden variety man-child today would be an inferior choice, since he's pretty lethargic and plugged into video games all day long, more like an adolescent, whereas the queer skips, claps his hands, and is generally more hyperactive, like a real child.

This applies not only to women who are actual fag hags, but also those who would like to be, yet who live where gay BFFs are in short supply.

Thus, when a homophile female hears the vaguest attack on the normalization of gay deviance, she takes it personally as an attack on a close member of her kin, whether her own small child or her kid brother. And nothing sets the mama bear a-roarin' like an outside attack on her defenseless young 'uns.

This also explains why there's such a panic about “bullying” nowadays. It's always about normal kids teasing or harassing the gay kid. Before the pro-gay movement took off, women in their role as figurative mothers for the young generation were more concerned with serial killers, drug dealers, kidnappers, pedophiles, and so on. Now that those problems have lightened up, they've taken in sissy kids as their new figurative offspring and have switched their targets to other kids who hurt their figurative kids' feelings.

Here is a first-hand account from a lifelong fag hag:

You see, I have been around them since I was a little girl and – if we’re really being honest – growing up, all I wanted was a gay best friend. And I wanted my relationship with said best friend to be like the one between Will and Grace. That special friendship with someone who loves you to the moon and back, would do anything for you and who you just click with.

Someone who loves you to the moon and back, would do anything for you – that's not a friend. She's clearly looking for the unconditional love of a dependent younger kin member, like a grateful son or grateful kid brother. Of course when the queer inevitably starts behaving like an ungrateful son, she'll flip out and feel he's violated the bonds of kinship, rather than the lighter offense of acting like a poor friend. She does mention that her gay BFFs have included “people who I’ve loathed and who have hated me just as much.” Those damn ungrateful faggots just don't appreciate how much I give as a mother!

I think it’s easy to see that this is a community that I feel very strongly about. It’s my home in a sense.

It’s a community that has been my life for a number of years and one that I am defiantly proud of. I will argue gay rights and marriage equality with anyone who cares to disagree with me. I will protect and nourish my close friends to the lengths of this earth. I am a fiercely loyal friend and I have a strong maternal instinct. I have a lot of friends but there is a very select bunch who I hold extremely dear. I literally believe that my friends are the family I have hand-picked for myself. I do not know what I would do without you. You make me smile, laugh and cry.

Now it all comes out. Close friends are not people who you “protect and nourish,” which is clearly an example of the maternal instinct, a phrase she uses explicitly. The gay community is her home and a hand-picked family. Unlike with an authentic family, though, she cannot feel a sense of wonder looking at her children, who are given to mothers and not hand-picked like baubles for her jewelry box (another tellingly shallow metaphor that she uses without shame). Nor will she feel pride at watching her children grow up and live their own healthy and productive lives, since hers are permanently stunted in childhood, doomed to make the same self-destructive mistakes forever – dating drug addicts, catching VD, etc.

To wrap up, there are hard data showing that homophile women are opting out of real marriage and out of having real children. The General Social Survey asks three questions that get at homophilic tendencies – do you think homosexual sex is never wrong, do you agree that they should be allowed to marry, and how many of them do you know well enough to trust, talk about important issues with, etc. The first two options don't even require you to know any in real life. The GSS also asks how many children you have and what your marital status is.

Let's start by using the “gay sex is never wrong” question to identify the homophiles, and restrict respondents to reproductive-age women (ages 18-39). The homophiles are far more likely to have never been married (54% vs. 40%), and far less likely to be currently married (37% vs. 50%). On average the homophiles have 0.4 fewer children, and have a much greater rate of childlessness (65% vs. 48%). Essentially the same numbers come up using the “let gays marry” question to identify the homophiles. A similar pattern of differences shows up with the “confide in at least one gay” question, although both groups show lower rates of marriage and children since this question was only asked in 2006, rather than back through the 1970s.

So homophilia and fag-haggery really do stem from a desire to avoid marriage and having children of one's own, just like with those airheads who spend more money pampering their micro-poodles than they would by putting the fruit of their womb through private school. It can be no surprise that they get so ferocious when someone speaks out against treating their screwed-up pseudo-children as though they were normal, healthy, and well-behaved.

* 50% to 42% in the 2010 General Social Survey

GSS variables used: sex, age, marital, childs, homosex, marhomo, trtgay

20 comments:

  1. Very interesting thoughts. Particularly the idea that homophile women want a "child in a box"--one who remains juvenile and sexless and emotionally stunted, which seems an apt description of many homosexual males. The relationship between childlessness and homophilia is also intriguing.

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  2. My experience is that so called "fag hags" are young women w/out prospects of a boyfriend or marriage partner. It's that simple, really.

    Don't forget there are a lot of really psychologically messed up, lonely, dependent young women out there. The "fag" takes the place of the really best same-gendered friend they never had as a kid.

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  3. I meant to add in my previous post that you have to remember there are a lot of Peter-Pan-ish women out there. They live in the dream world of a childhood they don't want to leave or in the dreamworld of a childhood they never had. The gay pal is their connection to that.

    There are, in other words, females who live in a neotenous state.

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  4. " meant to add in my previous post that you have to remember there are a lot of Peter-Pan-ish women out there. They live in the dream world of a childhood they don't want to leave or in the dreamworld of a childhood they never had. The gay pal is their connection to that.

    There are, in other words, females who live in a neotenous state."

    I disagree. Children do not have an urge to nurture other children.

    Andrew Lehman claims that androgynous women - those who have high levels of both testosterone and estrogen - are the most attracted towards neotenous men.

    This jibes with my personal experience. Faghags tend to be very controlling, but not totally masculine, otherwise they'd be more interested in getting laid as opposed to nurtruing a gay man.

    That being said, the infantile features of gay men may be what drives women to try to nurture them, oddly enough.

    -Curtis


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  5. "Don't forget there are a lot of really psychologically messed up, lonely, dependent young women out there. The "fag" takes the place of the really best same-gendered friend they never had as a kid."

    This is going too far. The reality is that most of them are genuinely unable to find a boyfriend(probably due to unattractiveness...) It doesn't necessarily make their behavior right, yet you're on the wrong tack to label them as mentally deranged. They are just lonely women exploited by a bad system.

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  6. "It's always about normal kids teasing or harassing the gay kid."

    I will never see that kind of behavior in a positive light. As destructive as gays are, we could do without those so-called "normal" kids.

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  7. "I meant to add in my previous post that you have to remember there are a lot of Peter-Pan-ish women out there"

    Its also always ironic that its usually some PUA nerd who says this. Millenial women at least have jobs, mostly.

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  8. "My experience is that so called "fag hags" are young women w/out prospects of a boyfriend or marriage partner. It's that simple, really."

    I agree, except that I don't believe faghags are psychologically screwed up. At least, not any more than an unattractive woman can be...

    Its not really their fault, either. From what I"ve seen, all the men who would normally be a boyfriend to the faghags, are too busy reading PUA blogs and fantasizing that they will one day sleep with a supermodel...

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  9. i"I disagree. Children do not have an urge to nurture other children."

    Ah, but that's not what is going on. These women don't want to nurture the gay male. They want them as best friends, confidantes, shoulders to cry on....best friends, in other words. They don't want them to be their children, for the most part.

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  10. "It doesn't necessarily make their behavior right, yet you're on the wrong tack to label them as mentally deranged. They are just lonely women exploited by a bad system."

    Miscommunication: I didn't mean "psychologically messed up"
    =deranged. I mean what I said. They are "lonely" and "dependent." That's "messed up."

    "Deranged" is a bridge too far.

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  11. Girls who like gay guys speak to them using a tone of voice usually reserved for small children. It's an exaggerated sing-song tone.

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  12. "
    Ah, but that's not what is going on. These women don't want to nurture the gay male. They want them as best friends, confidantes, shoulders to cry on....best friends, in other words. They don't want them to be their children, for the most part."

    That's a good point.

    -Curtis

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  13. Though I"m still not convinced that faghags are neotenous. Little girls usually don't want to associate with little boys, and little boys think little girls are gross.

    In faghag relationships, gays are looking for a mommy, basically. It takes a certain type of woman(domineering) to do this. The average woman generally can't stand a gay man's need to always be the center of attention.

    In general, it doesn't seem like neotenous women would be the ones speaking strongly out in favor of gays, either. They are playful and non-serious.

    Androgynous - high test. and high estrogen - women are really more your feminist ballbusters.

    I'd suggest the blog neoteny.org.

    -Curtis

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  14. This is from the blog:

    "Gays evidence maturational delay and females evidence acceleration. In addition, females exhibit higher testosterone levels, males lower levels, and both are coming from high testosterone mothers.

    I’d expect that male homosexuals, if they congregate features like those that we hypothesize were common when we were evolving in matrifocal social structures, would be often narcissistic, performance based, highly sexually motivated, often obsessive compulsive, musically inclined and excellent dancers.

    I would estimate that lesbians would often feature female traits in our ancient matrifocal archetype. They would have commanding dispositions, and they would be overweight (high testosterone/high estrogen), extremely discriminating and musically inclined.

    I would also predict that gays and lesbians would often have relatives with autism and Asperger’s, with homosexuality not uncommon among the autistic and those with Asperger’s. Gays and males with autism feature maturational delay; lesbians feature maturational acceleration."

    Now, note that the author claims that gay men have low test., but gay women have high testosterone.

    This can explain the differences agnostic has seen in gay men and women. Gay women are sexually mature.

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  15. Here's some more stuff. Off-topic, but its interesting notheless. Is the immaturity of the millenials because they are becoming more neotenous?

    "I’m still trying to grasp the concept that testosterone and estrogen and their associated hormones are together managing ontological, social and biological evolution by adjusting to changes in the environment by moderating the rate and timing of ontogeny.

    We always knew that sex governed our lives. There is now the possibility that we can understand how exactly this is done.

    In both sexes, entering puberty is characterized by a surge in testosterone that, among other things, halts most synaptic growth. If fat levels are not high enough, puberty is delayed. Certain levels of estrogen are required for testosterone surges to occur.

    Over ten years ago I hypothesized that a mother’s uterine testosterone levels would influence the likelihood of her child exhibiting autism. I estimated that the rate of maturation would be determined by the amount of testosterone. A mother with high testosterone would feature maturationally delayed sons and maturationally accelerated daughters, both vulnerable to autism.

    This last season I’ve been applying the pattern of how estrogen controls the timing of testosterone surges at puberty to early childhood when testosterone surges prune the right hemispheres of most normal right-handed individuals. Might estrogen levels in these infants, toddlers and children be determining the timing of these testosterone surges? What if estrogen levels were so low in boys that testosterone surges did not occur? The result would be an unpruned right hemisphere, a larger brain with two cerebral lobes that are the same size. This is a common feature of autism.

    If a mother has both high testosterone and high estrogen, what I estimate to be an archetype of one of two forms of matrifocal social structure, then, according to the principles that I’ve been playing with, she would birth a low-testosterone, low-estrogen son; high-testosterone, high-estrogen daughter.

    The implication is that we might predict that autism would be relatively common in cases where the rate of maturation and the timing of maturation combine to engender brains, mostly male brains, which are maturing slowly with little variation is hemispheric size.

    Regarding female infants and children with high estrogen encouraging pruning still drifting in an autistic direction, click here. That is a little more complicated.

    Right now, I’m wondering if breast milk vs. infant formula might be an influence on this process. If a mother’s body is able to modify her embryo’s maturation rate and timing based upon the various environmental influences that impact testosterone and estrogen levels, then does a mother’s milk also adjust to environmental influences in ways that her child’s ontogenetic timing is modified?

    Does what a new mother eats, for instance, a high-fat diet, influence her breast milk to increase the estrogen levels in her sons and daughters? Could a high-fat diet increase the chance of an autistic child?

    High-fat diets increase testosterone and estrogen levels."

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  16. and just cause I like this quote:

    "It is no mistake that there is a dramatic surge in those with autism and Asperger’s, mostly males that are maturational delayed. We are observing the neotenization of society, the same as biological neoteny, with individuals taking longer to mature, with infant features emerging later and later, particularly the ability to speak. Those with autism and Asperger’s are the white crest of the wave. Massive numbers of males are taking longer to mature."

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  17. Of course, the author thinks all this is a good thing, yet still I think he's absolutely right about what's going on.

    Anyway, this puts together all the pieces of the puzzle. For instance, it was long said that domineering mothers made men gay. AS it turns out, domineering women are genetically predisposed to give birth to gay men.

    Lehman says we are transitioning to a matrifocal society, but I think this may have already happened in the early 90s...

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  18. My last point: the theory also explains why the gay rights movement and asperger's awareness have been so successful and widespread. The mothers of gays and autistics/nerds are genetic battleaxes who forced these paradigms on society.

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  19. http://www.heretical.com/sheppard/in-women.html

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  20. http://www.heretical.com/sheppard/in-women.html

    What a crock of shit.

    -Curtis

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