July 28, 2025

Japanese steppe culture: Ruling clans with the piebald horse as totem animal, and ritual horse sacrifice

Following the previous post, we'll look at another sort of "creation" myth from Japan -- the origin myth of ritual impurity, and therefore, of ritual purification measures to counter-act it (the basis of Shinto practices). This myth provides 2 links to horse culture from the Eastern Steppe. It's from the Nihon Shoki, though not the Kojiki, from the earliest writings in Japanese (early 8th C AD).

The god responsible for introducing ritual impurity into the world is Susanoo, the impetuous storm god. The target of his ire in this story is his sister, the sun goddess Amaterasu. He takes the Heavenly Piebald Colt (Ame no Fuchikoma), and flays it alive -- starting with its back end, and working toward the head. The text uses a specific term to emphasize that this is a "backwards flaying" ("sakahagi"), not a standard flaying that starts at the head and works its way toward the tail.

This is a form of ritual impurity, since he has not killed the colt first (e.g., by slitting its throat), and since he's removing the skin in backwards order.

He then hurls the colt in through a hole in the roof of Amaterasu's weaving hall, where one of her maidens is so startled by the desecration that she runs into the spinning shuttle at her loom, which hits her in the genitals, causing her to begin bleeding from there. This is the origin of menstrual bleeding, another form of ritual impurity. Amaterasu then goes into hiding in the Heavenly Rock-Cave Door (Ame no Iwayato), in a form of menstrual seclusion. Susanoo also defecates in her palace, another form of ritual impurity.

This story reveals that the myth-makers of Japan were intimately familiar with horse sacrifices -- how they were supposed to be performed, and therefore, which actions would constitute desecration, defilement, and impurity.

I don't know about every culture that practiced horse sacrifice, but the Cheremis people (AKA Mari) began flaying the horse from the head, then ending at the tail. Of course its throat was slit first, not flayed alive. And it was a colt, not an adult horse (the Japanese term "koma" means specifically "colt," combining the words for "child" and "horse").

The whole ordeal is described in grisly detail in the Finno-Ugric portion of The Mythology of All Races, which I referred to in the previous post. Incidentally, from my reading of their myth and ritual, the Cheremis seem to be mostly Indo-European culturally, despite speaking a Uralic language -- much like the Hungarians, Estonians, and Finns. They live along the Volga River in Russia, a little ways north of the Steppe.

How would the creators of the Nihon Shoki know so much about horse sacrifice, and why would they want to use that as such a crucial example of Susanoo's causing ritual impurity? He also destroys Amaterasu's rice fields, but it's not described in cruel gut-wrenching detail like flaying a horse backwards while still alive. They really wanted to emphasize the importance of horses, and of horse sacrifices, in their culture.

A mainly agrarian culture would not care so much about defiling the horse sacrifice ritual -- and probably would not even refer to such a ritual, since there was never any such thing in their culture. It occupies center stage in the Japanese narrative because they hailed from a nomadic horse-centric culture before arriving in Korea and Japan -- which in that part of the world, means the Eastern Steppe.

Its similarity to the Cheremis horse sacrifice ritual suggests a common ritual all across the Steppe, whether the practitioners were Indo-European, Uralic, Altaic, or otherwise.

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However, the Japanese myth's emphasis on the piebald / skewbald / spotted / etc. color pattern of the horse, narrows down which range of the Steppe they originated from.

First, tribes or clans or chiefdoms being associated with particular color patterns of their horses is mainly an Eastern Steppe phenomenon, from the Turkic tribes all the way to Glorious Nippon. It makes their favored breed of horse into a totem animal for the social unit.

Amaterasu is not just any ol' goddess in the foundational texts of Japanese culture -- she is the deity through whom the Japanese imperial family traces their bloodline. So this means that the piebald horse is a totem animal for the ruling clan of Japan.

Where else is the piebald horse the totem animal for a ruling clan? Why, where else, and when else? -- in the Xiongnu confederation during the late 1st millennium BC, and several of its off-shoots after its break-up.

And not just any ol' clan within the Xiongnu, but their ruling clan, the Luandi, whose name likely derives from "piebald horse".

Then there was the Alat tribe, whose name also likely means "piebald horse", a Turkic tribe who also belonged to the Xiongnu, and were either related to the Luandi, or identical to them, or perhaps they coincidentally shared the same totem animal due to there only being so many color patterns to choose from, and due to every clan preferring a horse rather than some other species for their totem animal.

The same situation must have been true for the ruling tribe or clan among the Yayoi-like people who arrived in southern Korea and then Japan. Their totem animal was also the piebald horse, whether their clan was related to the Luandi or Alat by lineage, or just sharing a totem animal by happenstance. In either case, it places the continental component of the future Japanese culture among the Xiongnu confederation during the 1st millennium BC -- not Southeast Asia, not the far Arctic north, not during the 1st millennium AD, etc.

As with the horse sacrifice portion of the myth, specifying the color pattern of the heavenly horse reveals that the myth-makers of Japan were intimately familiar with Eastern Steppe practices for choosing a totem animal, like including its color pattern instead of a broadly defined breed or species name alone.

I don't think the Alat tribe being Turkic means that the ruling clan of the Yayoi-like people were Turkic. They could have been Mongolic or Tungusic. Making the horse your totem animal, and emphasizing its color pattern, was common among all of those Altaic speech communities.

And perhaps the Yayoi-like population was not ethnically homogeneous -- there could have been Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, Uralic, or other groups among them. All sorts of people mixed with each other on the Eastern Steppe. Perhaps they only homogenized when they landed in Japan and were defined by a new ethnic opposition, between the various continental arrivals and the native Emishi / Ainu.

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Over the past 10 years in Japan, there has been an insanely popular media franchise called Uma Musume ("Horse Girl") Pretty Derby, mostly based on an anime series and related video games, which revolve around a group of horse-human girls training to compete in horse-girl races. Yes, like in a traditional horse-racing track. They look mostly human, with horse ears, and as a side project devote themselves to singing and dancing on stage as idols.

This is yet another case of the horse-centric origins of Japanese culture re-asserting themselves in the modern age, after having lied dormant or secondary for many centuries.

But by now, horse racing is a very popular sport in Japan, and has been for decades. It's so popular that Lui, a vtuber from Hololive, hosts regular watching parties / informal betting streams as the major Japanese horse races are being broadcast. She can't re-broadcast the sound and image of the race on her own stream, due to copyright, but even just as a watching party, she gets close to 10K live viewers, judging from the one she held a few days ago (pretty good numbers for livestreams).

And as the very beginnings of Japanese literature show, their fascination with horses is neither new nor imported from the West. And far from viewing them as only a neat form of entertainment, they hold them to be one of the most sacred animals in creation, a testament to their origins in the Eastern Steppe, and the OG badass nomadic steppe empire in particular, the Xiongnu.

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  1. i find this japanese steppe posts very interesting

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  2. Does the Japanese endonym "Yamato" have to do with horses? I'll have to dive deeper into this one and report back in a full post later, but here's the outline of what I've found so far.

    First, there's no consensus on the etymology of Yamato.

    Most, though, argue for "yama" meaning "mountain" or "forest," and an uncertain element "to" afterward. In Old Japanese, this ending syllable was with the "o2" vowel, which came from the schwa-type vowel in Proto-Japonic. This shoots down most of the proposals about "-to" meaning "door" etc., cuz those are with the "o1" vowel, not "o2".

    Well, I have no clue what that final "-to" means either.

    But I think it's worth exploring the possibility that "yama" is not a single morpheme, but a two-morpheme compound -- "ya" + "ma", or even "ya" + "uma", where "ma" or "uma" means horse, as it still does, and did back in the Old Japanese and Proto-Japonic days.

    In Old Japanese, two vowels in sequence were not allowed, and typically the 2nd one would be deleted -- except where the first vowel was the sole vowel of a monosyllabic morpheme at the start of a word. E.g., "koma" derived from "ko + uma", meaning "child + horse" = "colt, foal", a compound word we've already seen.

    So whether the word for horse was "ma" or "uma", both would combine with "ya" at the start to yield "yama".

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  3. The oldest written references to Yamato is actually to a slightly different but related word, "Yamatai", a kingdom where the Yamato people lived, or where the Yamato clan ruled over the people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamatai

    There's one contemporaneous account of this kingdom, from in China as part of the Records of the Three Kingdoms, written at the end of the 3rd C AD -- at the very time that this kingdom was growing, and centuries before the earliest Japanese works were written (early 8th C, 400 years later).

    It is also mentioned in the Book of the Later Han from 432, still well before the earliest Japanese records, before the rise of Nara as the imperial court, and so on.

    Both of these early Chinese accounts spell out "Yamatai" with the character for "horse" to represent the sounds "ma". They could have chosen a different character that also sounded like "ma" in Chinese, but they did not -- they chose the character that means "horse".

    Later on, the next Chinese record to refer to "Yamatai" is the Book of Sui from 636, and by this point the Chinese have changed their choice of character for the "ma" syllable -- now it's the character that has to do with using something up, like wasteful, extravagant, squander, rotten, and so on.

    By the 7th C, though, the Chinese were no longer in touch with the kingdom being referred to as Yamatai. Only those from the 3rd C, or soon after, were contemporaneous commentators on Yamatai.

    The first character in the oldest records, to represent "ya", is the one that means "evil, calamity" in Chinese. So probably these early contemporaneous accounts were trying to convey that, as far as the Han were concerned, the kingdom of Yamatai was another one of those evil horse-centric cultures like the ones who belonged to the Xiongnu.

    The Records of the Three Kingdoms reflects the Chinese state that actually received delegations from Yamatai, so they were in a better position to know what the name of the kingdom meant. And since some variant on "ma" was a widespread word for "horse" in NE Asia, they knew exactly which character to represent the "ma" syllable in "Yamatai" -- the one meaning "horse"!

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  4. So then what does "ya" mean, to modify "(u)ma"? In Old Japanese and Proto-Japonic, it literally means the number 8, but it was figuratively used to mean "many, lots", as in "yakumo" meaning "many clouds". Similar to Indo-Euro languages using 3 as their magical maximal number, like having words for "once," "twice," and "thrice" -- but not above that, since 3 is as high as you can get.

    In Japanese, 8 is the maximal number in common speech.

    So "ya + uma" could mean "many horses," i.e. the clan that is abundant in horses, as compared to those wannabe clans that hardly have any horses at all.

    But I doubt that, cuz of all the tribal names in the Eastern Steppe that have a totem animal, the modifier word is not a vague and subjective one about the quantity of livestock in their herd. Rather, it specifies some salient visual trait that the animal has -- usually its coat color, or coloration pattern.

    We've already seen the Alat and Luandi, whose names both derive from "piebald horse". One etymology of "Kyrgyz" is that the first element used to be "qir" meaning "gray", referring to the coat color of their horses. Then there's the mythical gray wolf of Turkic legends, the white fox of Japanese legends -- the totem animal is used in a singular fashion, as an icon, not as one member of a large herd of its species.

    And since tribes are distinct from each other, and there are only so many species to use as your totem animal, you have to give it more specific detail -- what kind of wolf, what kind of horse? A gray wolf, a piebald horse.

    So, if "ma" in "Yamato" referred to "horse", then the word "ya" that modifies it must give some kind of specific trait that their horse icon has. It wouldn't mean "many" in the sense of "many horses in their herds," which does not provide details about what kind of horse they identify with.

    So perhaps "ya" meant "many" in the sense of "many colors" or "many shapes", i.e. "piebald". This is not how the coat of the Heavenly Piebald Colt is referred to, in the early 8th C -- that is "fuchi," deriving from older "puti", where "pu" is an element meaning "spot". Admittedly this is a weak point in the argument.

    Maybe at an early point in the history of the Japonic languages, they didn't yet have a term like "pu" meaning "spot", let alone the derived term "puti" to mean "spotted in appearance", a term that is only attested by the 8th C AD.

    Since the Altaic language of the Yayoi-like speakers was put through a major filter, i.e. the Emishi-an / Ainu language of the natives, the lexicon of their synthesis language, Proto-Japonic, probably didn't have lots and lots of entries. Especially for infrequent luxury words like "piebald" (still an SAT word in English).

    So, for want of a word for "spotted" or "mottled" or whatever, they did the best they could with what they had -- which did include a word for "many", namely "ya".

    In the context of hearing a horse described as "many" -- what trait of that horse do you think is being referred to? Many heads? No, it's not that fantastical. Many hands tall or wide or long? No, there's already a basic word for "big" in the sense of size or stature, "opo".

    You know it must refer to its visual appearance, since that's how animals are modified when they're a totem animal -- and typically, it's the appearance of their coat. What could "many" mean in the context of describing an animal's coat? Why, the number of colors, or number of distinct shapes within it, either way meaning piebald and variegated, rather than solid. The hues aren't important in this case, just that there are many such hues -- even two colors gives it a piebald appearance.

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  5. If that sounds like stretching the imagination, just consider an English term like "combination" to describe an animal, without explicitly saying that "combination of colors" -- just "combination".

    It's a combination horse, it's a combi horse, it's a combo horse -- what trait of this horse do you think combo / combination is referring to, and what could it mean?

    You don't think it means you're combining parts of a horse with parts of some other animal, like a chimera. You know it's something apparent to the basic senses, so probably some visual trait -- likely its coat color, since that's what distinguishes one type of horse from another. So a combination of "colors" -- even though I didn't explicitly say "color" in the term "combination horse".

    Same with "variegated horse" -- what trait of it is variegated? I don't have to explicitly say "variegated color horse" -- you know it's the color that is variegated, not the number of hairs in its mane, its eye iris colors, its tooth shapes, its daily moods, or whatever else.

    So, in a Steppe context where tribes and clans are often named after totem animals, and where the most common trait to specify which type of animal their mascot is, it's usually the most obvious and distinctive one, like coat color.

    You wouldn't have to say "many colored horse" -- you could just say "many horse" or "multi horse" to refer to the clan's mascot, and they'd understand that "many" and "multi" referred to the number of colors in its coat, without having to explicitly include a morpheme meaning "color" in its name.

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  6. There's ample precedence for this exact term, "piebald horse", in the clan names from the same time and general place that the Yamato clan was choosing a name for itself. Namely the Alat and Luandi from the Eastern Steppe.

    And in the earliest mythologies from Japan, the imperial family's god-like ancestors were identified with a Heavenly Piebald Colt.

    So it would in fact be perfectly fitting, not semantic gymnastics, for "yama" in their clan name to mean "multi horse", i.e. multi-colored horse, i.e. piebald horse.

    Again, what the final syllable "to" or "tai" means, IDK. Probably a less semantically crucial element, like "clan".

    I'll simply note that "Yamatai", the Chinese word, could possibly be trying to capture "ti" from Proto-Japonic in its final syllable. And "ti" is a P-J word for "blood" or "milk" or by extension "essential life force" (and no, this is not borrowed from Chinese "qi", it's native to Japonic).

    Blood relating to kin relations, milk also referring to familial ties i.e. between mother and offspring. Both hinting at tribe or clan.

    Yamati -- Multi(color) Horse Clan.

    As with the other researchers, I'm way less clear what the final syllable means. But given the Eastern Steppe origins of Japanese culture, it's worth exploring the possibility that the Yamato clan name has something to do with horses.

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  7. Actually, a better meaning of "Yamati" would be as literal as possible, not reading "ti" as "clan":

    Multi(color) Horse Blood / Milk / Life Force

    That is, the clan whose sustenance is the piebald horse. Perhaps literally, since horse people rely on the milk and sometimes blood of their horses for their diet. And perhaps figuratively, their horses are what sustains the life of their owners and community.

    Again, that's if the final syllable is "ti", rendered in Chinese as something like "tai".

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  8. Another fatal flaw in AI -- the inability for one "sensory" mode of AI to communicate with a different mode. Like, a visual-mode AI and a language-mode AI.

    In any intelligent species, the various intelligences communicate with each other, in an integrated system.

    I googled about Tocharian robes being left over right or right over left, and Google's AI summary couldn't tell me anything, saying it's unresolved, or there are no published studies, etc. This is coming from a language-mode AI searching through language-mode data, i.e. text.

    But there's a Wikipedia article on Tocharian clothing, and 100% of the very many examples depicted show their robes wrapping right over left.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharian_clothing

    So Google's AI is completely blind if you ask it about something visual, and the answer is not encoded by some previous human writer in textual / linguistic form.

    It can't do the most basic visual processing that any person can -- look at an image, segment it into relevant objects, determine their arrangement with respect to one another, and answer a very simple question about their arrangement.

    Notice that the visual-mode AI's all go in one direction, from textual prompt to visual image output. You can't query them about an image, or group of images, and get a verbal answer in return.

    So, the verbal AI's are blind, and the visual AI's are mute!

    Wonderful recreation of a mind you've got there, and it only took $10 trillion of fake money printed up and handed out to retarded gadget-diddlers...

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  9. Worse yet, the Tocharian clothing article on Wikipedia even has a verbal description of a "right-lapelled caftan" in the caption of one image, which means their robes wrap right over left.

    However, there are several forms of verbally describing this pattern -- "right over left / left over right," "closing to the left / right," "right / left-lapelled," and possibly others.

    The verbal AI didn't know what to make of the term "right-lapelled" in visual-spatial terms.

    So even with some extra verbal descriptive help, it still was totally blind and failed to answer the simplest question imaginable -- one where there's ample data, it's totally unambiguous, and it comes up near the top of the search results cuz it's Wikipedia.

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  10. Turns out that there were a lot more ethnic cleansing in Communist countries at the end of the Cold War than I thought. It was not just the Yugoslavs that did ethnic cleansing.

    The Bulgarians ethnically cleansed the Turkish minority in 1989:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_expulsion_of_Turks_from_Bulgaria

    There was a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan which resulted in both sides ethnically cleansing each other:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Nagorno-Karabakh_War

    The Uzbeks also ethnically cleansed the Turkish minority in their country:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergana_massacre

    Within Russia itself, the Ossetians ethnically cleansed the Ingush out of the Republic of North Ossetia–Alania.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Prigorodny_conflict

    This makes me wonder that, as the United States withdraws from its global empire, whether we might see ethnic cleansing arise in American client states such as in European countries like Britain and France or even in parts of America itself.

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  11. Why was I researching which side of the robe wraps over the other? Why, to establish the Eastern Steppe origins of Japanese culture, of course! I'll put up a separate post on that soon, but suffice it to say for now that the Han Chinese -- the standard-setters for civilized, sedentary grain agriculture societies -- wrapped their robes left over right (AKA closing to the right). And they were big sticklers about that, cuz the nomadic barbarians to the north wrapped them the opposite way -- right over left (AKA closing to the left).

    This sartorial shibboleth between civilized and nomadic cultures, in East Asia, was present already by the mid-to-late 1st millennium BC. And they have stuck by it ever since, except during the periods when some of those nomadic Northerners ruled over the Han and retained their Northern-style robe closure. But the Han didn't alter their closure pattern under foreign pressure.

    The earliest stage of Japanese clothing that is known about is the Kofun period (roughly 300 - 600 AD, before the rise of Nara and Kyoto as the imperial core). At this stage, their robes wrapped right over left -- in the Northern nomadic style! Also, they wore pants, not just robes -- just like horse-riders from the Steppe.

    Here's Peter Turchin discussing the cultural evolution of pants, as an adaptation to horse-riding:

    https://peterturchin.com/cultural-evolution-of-pants/

    https://peterturchin.com/cultural-evolution-of-pants-ii/

    The right-over-left closure lasted through the Asuka period, as shown by paintings at the 7th-C Takamatsuzuka Tomb:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Takamat1.jpg

    But during the Nara period, starting in the early 8th C, the Japanese switched styles -- at least among the courtly elite, and sooner or later among the general population as well. They even issued a formal legal decree against the right-over-left style! The Yoro clothing code of 718.

    They were openly trying to Sinicize their culture, by adopting Chinese characters in their writing, deriving their own native writing systems (Hiragana and Katakana) from Chinese origins, adopting Buddhism via China, and in general trying to emphasize their sedentary grain agriculture kind of society, obscuring their partly horse-nomadic roots on the Steppe.

    And that meant no longer dressing in the Steppe style -- switching to the right-over-left closure style, and obscuring their pant legs as much as possible with long flowy robes instead. Wouldn't want to look like you just dismounted your trusty steed...

    But as the Japanese have adopted some aspects of Western dress in the Meiji era and after, they have RETVRNED to wearing pants instead of flowy robes, and at least the women have RETVRNED to closing their upper-body garments right-over-left.

    The West never tried to imitate Han China, or to counter-signal the Steppe clothing styles. So we've been preserving the dignified barbarian mode of dressing all along, and now the Japanese can use us as a resource to re-discover their own dignified horse-riding cultural roots! ^_^

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  12. *Switching _from_ right-over left, to left-over-right, during the Nara period.

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  13. To wrap up, as it were, the discussion of Tocharian clothing, it's yet another piece of evidence that they were not Indo-European or Western Steppe, culturally, despite being Indo-Euro-phone.

    They used to speak a Samoyedic (Uralic) language before switching languages.

    Here we see how they adhered closely to the Eastern Steppe style of dressing -- with robes that were open in the front, and strictly closing right-over-left. They also wore pullover or caftan type tops, but their open-front garments were always done in the Eastern Steppe fashion, whereas Western Steppe and European cultures didn't obsess over this -- not at the culture-wide level, anyway.

    By the Early Modern period, European men's and women's closures were opposite of each other, and that remains to this day. Men's clothes close left-over-right, women's right-over-left.

    But by and large, the Dark Ages in Europe saw people wearing pullover type tunics, not open-front garments that were strictly closed right-over-left, which was distinctive of Eastern Steppe cultures like the Tocharians, even after they had migrated away from the Steppe itself and down into the Tarim Basin -- just as the Japanese maintained their Steppe style of dressing well after they had left the Steppe itself and settled the Japanese islands, before switching in the 8th C.

    In comment sections, I already covered at length the various other ways in which the Tocharians are Eastern, not Western or Indo-European, but there's still plenty more to say about them. Hopefully I'll get to them soon with longer posts.

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    1. While we are on the subject of the decline of robes and the spreading of trousers, I thought this would be a good time to bring up the subject of "breeching", and how as late as the turn of the 20th Century, boys and girls (especially among the upper classes) were doned in dresses up to a certain age

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_(boys)

      https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/breeching-party-first-pants-regency-trousers-boys

      It wasn't considered the case so much that young boys were dressed as girls but that women were dressed as children as dresses were considered "children's clothing" overall and women were seen as more childlike and dependent.

      There is also the "Great Male Renunciation" caused by the French Revolutionary period that led to a decline of extravagent, colourful clothing among men.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Male_Renunciation

      There was only a brief revival in the mid-20th Century.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacock_revolution

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  14. While we are on the subject of Japanese, I thought you may like the fact that it is usually listed as the world's fastest language:

    https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/09/28/why-are-some-languages-spoken-faster-than-others
    https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/f1z6rc/language_information_speed/

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  15. Very nostalgic moment in Marine's birthday concert when Chisa Yokoyama appeared as a live-action guest performer. I haven't seen much anime, but she's very popular from the '90s onward, most notably for Sakura Wars.

    But she's also very nostalgic for American '90s culture -- she voiced the protagonist Cher in the Japanese dub of Clueless, one of the last iconic American movies, before the crapification of the late '90s onward.

    I hope Japanese people remember us more for our culture before the 21st century, like Clueless. That's as All-American as it gets. Please don't remember us for all of the George W. Bush, emo, mean-girls, woketard, anti-aesthetic slop-o-rama that followed...

    One of the worst desecrations of the woketard 2010s was the music video for "Fancy" that debased the aesthetic of Clueless, which was from the peak of social harmony and based on camaraderie, into just another round of catty bitchy hyper-competitive mean-girl backstabbing and ego-promotion.

    Clueless will always mean the Muffs' cover of the yearning optimistic feel-good '80s hit "Kids in America", not the bitchy girl-fight battle anthem "Fancy".

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  16. I'm not sure if Japan is on the same 15-year cultural excitement cycle as America, but if they are, I'll note that Chisa Yokoyama was born during a manic phase (late '60s), and still gives off a very pure smile, into her 50s.

    Not a sad girl or a wild child, but a Manic Pixie Dream Girl. Very warm, welcoming, nurturing, guardian angel aura, even into her 50s.

    Very based of Marine to host her during her birthday concert, and maintain links throughout all eras of Japanese culture, not just jumping on the bandwagon du jour.

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  17. Another thought on the origin of "Yamato" -- it's far less common for "yama" meaning "mountain" to appear as the first element of a compound, and more common to appear as the second. That's cuz Japanese is a head-final language, where the modifier or qualifier or narrower word comes first, and then the more broadly defined word second.

    E.g., "Nakayama" is derived from "naka" ("central") and "yama" ("mountains"). "Mountain" on its own is too broad and vague -- which kind of mountains, which specific range of mountains, which particular peak? That's where the first element comes in, to specify -- the central mountains.

    Only a handful of place names and clan names begin with "yama" -- "Yamada" and "Yamaguchi" and that's about it. In these examples, the broad noun is "ta" ("rice field") and "kuti" ("mouth"), with rendaku applying and "ti" becoming "chi" due to palatalization. "Yama" is the specifier or modifier -- not just any ol' rice field, but one in a mountainous area. The mouth of what? The mouth of the mountains.

    But "mountain" doesn't work well as a modifier, it's not very specific like a color term is. Color terms can productively and extensively be used as the first / early element of a noun phrase, whereas "mountain" cannot.

    There are zillions more place names and clan names where "yama" is the last element, like "Nakayama," "Yokoyama," and so on. There are zillions of ways to specify what kind of mountain it is, rather than mountain being the specifier.

    But if "Yama" is derived from "ya + uma", then it is a perfect specifier -- it means "multi(color) horse", which specifies which totem animal the clan uses. They don't use a wolf or a bear or a lion or a dragon -- they use a horse. Even more specifically, they don't use a white horse or dark horse or orange horse -- they use a piebald horse.

    Again, IDK what "-to" means as the 2nd element. Something broad and vague. The point is, "multi(color) horse" is a much better specifier as the 1st element, than "mountain" is.

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  18. Also, unlike "Yamato," which has never used the Chinese character for "mountain" in the written form, "Yamada" and "Yamaguchi" both use it. And so do the examples where "yama" comes last, like "Nakayama" and "Yokoyama" and so on.

    In the earliest, contemporaneous account of Yamatai / Yamato, the Chinese *did* use the character for "horse", although they did not just the character for "8 / many", due to that number being pronounced differently in Chinese ("peat" in Middle Chinese, "pret" in Old Chinese), and due to the number 8 not meaning "many / much / multi" in Chinese, as it does in Japanese.

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  19. Clarification: "Yamato" was sometimes spelled with the character for mountain, and in a logographic system where the meaning was important and not only the sounds, namely the Man'youshuu of the 7th / 8th C.

    But that was only occasionally within this corpus, and never became the standard way to write it -- whether in official / legal contexts, or informal / de facto contexts.

    As opposed to the place names and clan names that *did* have to do with mountains, where it's always written with the character for mountain.

    I think if the Man'youshuu intended to say, "This ethnonym has to do with mountains," they would have always written it with the mountain character, not only sometimes, and that such a written form would have become the standard in some context, whether official or informal or both.

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  20. The fact that the Chinese rendering of Yamatai sometimes had a "t" and sometimes a "d" for the stop consonant, means it was likely subject to rendaku, and therefore there was a morpheme boundary between "ma" and "to", and that "Yamato" is a compound word, not a three-mora whole that cannot be decomposed.

    This also rules out a segmentation into "ya + mato", since there's no morpheme boundary between "ma" and "to" there.

    So it's either "yama + to" or "ya + ma + to".

    I've argued heavily against the "yama + to" option. What else could it be for "ya + ma", though?

    Well, given the rule against vowel sequences, "yama" could result from "ya + uma" (as I've already said), "ya + ama" (where "ama" means "good, sweet"), or "ya + ima" (where "ima" means "now").

    "Ima" / "now" makes no sense, so we can rule that out.

    "Ama" meaning "good" or "sweet" is an adjective, so cannot work as a head noun. Even if you construe "yama" as an adjective, like "very sweet" or "much good", it doesn't refine or narrow the scope of the clan or place who is identified by it. The very-sweet clan? Not like "piebald horse" does.

    "Ama" meaning "sky, heaven" could work, since it's a noun. But in Proto-Japonic, it was "amai", with an extra vowel at the end. In the Old Japanese stage, the rule against sequences did not merely drop the 2nd vowel, in some cases, like here, it changed the two vowels into a single new one -- "ai" became "e". So "amai" in PJ became "ame2" in OJ. And that "ame" form appears in many epithets of gods, relating to heaven.

    "Ama" is also present, as in "Amaterasu", but this form of "ama" instead of "ame" seems to be later. Whereas "Yamatai" is attested by the Chinese in the 3rd C. Back then, it should have been either "amai" or "ame", not "ama".

    Also, "Yamato" has never been written with the character for "sky". And in the one context where it is, in the Kojiki under "another name for Yamato", "heaven" is pronounced "Ame" instead of "Ama".

    So, if the first two syllables are segmented "ya + ma," then only "ya + uma" or "ya + ma" are viable choices, both of which have "horse" in the 2nd term.

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  21. There are other ancient / mythological Japanese terms that begin with "ya", where it's used as "eight" or "many", and where it's written with the character for "8" (unlike "Yamato", I admit). But none, as far as I can tell, that begin with "yama" in a compound word, lengthy epithet, etc.

    In fact, "Yamata no Orochi", the name of the dragon that Susanoo slays, begins not only with "ya" but "yama" -- and yet, it has nothing to do with mountains or forests, and it was never written with the character for mountain.

    It's segmented as "ya + mata" meaning "eight / many + fork" as in forking paths, or branching paths. It has 8 heads, each of which forks off from the body, or forms a fork shape with the other heads. "Mata" also means "crotch," i.e. where two branching paths meet.

    And "Yamata" is even closer to "Yamatai" or "Yamato", due to its final syllable. It makes me wonder whether the narrative was originally about the "Yamatai Dragon", or the "Yamato Dragon" -- the specific dragon that lives in Japan, that threatens the Yamato clan who rule over Yamatai, and so on, as opposed to Chinese dragons, or dragons of other realms.

    If that's so, then "yamata" meaning "eight-forked" is a later post-hoc rationalization, to change it from being about the dragon of the Japanese islands, to an 8-headed dragon.

    Also dating back to the Nara period, the Imperial Regalia of Japan include a mirror called the "Yata no kagami" and a jewel called the "Yasakani no Magatama". In both cases, there's a morpheme boundary after "ya", which means "eight / many" yet again, and is written with the character for 8.

    "Yata" means 8-ata, a unit of measurement, referring to its great size.

    However, "Yasakani" segments as "ya + sa + kani," meaning "8-foot jewel" -- and there's no way it's literally 8 feet big, no matter how the size of feet may have changed over the centuries. So it really means "many"-feet, although that too is surely an exaggeration. But basically meaning "much more" great in size than the typical magatama jewel.

    In Shinto, there's a guiding bird god named Yatagarasu, where "ya + (a)ta" means 8-ata, as in "Yata no kagami", and "garasu" means "crow". It has special significance to the Yamato people and state, since this bird guided the first legendary Japanese Emperor, Jimmu, into the Yamato region around Nara.

    So many of these crucial terms going back as far as the earliest Japanese records -- and even further, as recorded by the Chinese -- begin with "ya", and they are always segmented with a morpheme boundary right after "ya", which means "eight / many". In none of them does the syllable "ya" join the following syllable(s) to form a multi-mora morpheme like "yama" meaning "mountain".

    By assuming that the "yama" in "Yamatai" and "Yamato" means "mountain", that goes against the entire rest of the pattern. It's easier to assume that "Yamatai" and "Yamato" are following this very prevalent, almost obsessive pattern in early Japanese ethnogenesis.

    So, in the ethnonym and toponym, "ya" is a morpheme unto itself, meaning "eight / many / poly / multi", and then the only question is what is it modifying?

    The following morpheme is unlikely to be "mato", due to the confusion in the Chinese rendering between "t" and "d", suggesting it was at least somewhat subject to rendaku, and therefore "mato" was split by a morpheme boundary.

    That means "Yamatai" and "Yamato" are segmented into 3 morphemes, "ya + ma + tai / to". I've already discussed why "ma" or "uma" meaning "horse" is the only plausible meaning for the 2nd of those 3 morphemes, and what is "multi" in the meaning of "ya" (coat colors of the horse).

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  22. Also, the two main contenders for where Yamatai is located, are not in the mountains, they're in plains near the sea-level -- one in Northern Kyushu, and the other around Nara.

    That's where the final syllable comes in -- the people saying that "yama" means "mountain" have to explain why the two place-names are referring to places that are not in the mountains. Well, "to" could mean "door" (but the vowel is wrong for that reading -- different "o"), so that these places are merely the door to the mountains, not high up in the mountains themselves.

    But people don't define themselves that way -- they define themselves by where they are, not where their place eventually leads to on the other side of some major obstacle. If they're lowlanders, they call themselves lowlanders, not "door to the mountain people". And if they're mountain people, they call themselves "mountain people," not "one slide away from the lowlands people".

    Americans from the Mid-Atlantic or Tidewater part of the East Coast don't call their place "the doorway to Appalachia". They call themselves Tidewater people, cuz that's where they actually are -- not where some path that goes through them eventually leads to, outside of their realm.

    And the ancient inhabitants of Japan would not have called Northern Kyushu and Kinai in Honshu as a "door to the mountains".

    Also, notice the difference with my American example -- it would be even worse if Tidewater Virginians called themselves the "door to the mountains" -- which mountains? If it's left vague and unspecified, that's a horrible toponym. "Door to Appalachia," while defining themselves by a place where they do not live, at least has a tangible sense of place -- somewhere near the Appalachian mountains, not just any ol' range of mountains.

    Likewise, the ancient inhabitants near Nara would have preferred a place-name for their region like "Tateyama-to" -- "Doorway to Mount Tate," one of Japan's highest and most sacred mountains, which lies in the Japanese Alps that split the Nara / Kyoto region off from Kanto / Tokyo to the east.

    They would not have chosen that name, if they lived in Nara -- they would choose something about Nara itself, not what Nara is on the path toward.

    But it would still be better than "Doorway to the mountains" -- since that phrase lacks specificity. Which mountains is it the doorway to? Name them, or describe them. "Mountain Doorway" is way too bland and bereft of meaning to serve as a clan name or place-name.

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  23. "Piebald horse" is very specific, but it isn't a place-name originally. That gets to the larger point -- Yamato was first a clan name, and later a place-name -- named after the clan who ruled over that space. "Piebald horse" originally referred to the totem animal of a tribe, and later to the territory that this tribe ruled over.

    And since the Yamato clan, like the rest of the Yayoi-type arrivals, was expanding throughout the Japanese islands, there are more than one place-name that bear their name. That's cuz the Yamato clan controlled more than one region. One in Northern Kyushu, one near Nara.

    It's like all the place-names in Europe and even Asia Minor named after the Gauls, a Celtic tribe. Gaul itself, naturally, but also Galicia in NW Iberia, Galatia in Anatolia, and likely Galicia in Poland/Ukraine (bearing the name of a tribe who had long since vanished by the time of Slavic speakers settling there).

    The Gauls are not named after Gaul, or Galicia (Iberia), or Galicia (Eastern Europe), or Galatia. Those place-names are named after the single tribal name -- a tribe that led a society, empire, migration, whatever, throughout Europe and West Asia.

    Apparently, the debate over where Yamatai is located -- Kyushu or Honshu -- is never-ending and very heated in Japan. But I think they're both right, and that this is like the Gauls and Gaul, Galicia, Galicia 2.0, and Galatia. More than 1 toponym bears the name of a single tribe (or larger political unit which they led) that ruled over the regions in question.

    Queen Himiko, the one mentioned in Chinese historical records as the ruler of Yamatai during the 3rd C AD, likely ruled over both Northern Kyushu and the Kinai region of Honshu. Both of those places belonged to Yamatai -- which the Chinese described as a highly united place, and therefore broad in scope, under Himiko's leadership, unlike the fragmented nature of political organization during the previous century.

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  24. One more fashion note before heading off to bed (I'll compile these into a separate post on clothing shibboleths).

    I've already mentioned that Japanese religion seems heavily based on Tengrism or the earlier, not-quite-yet-Tengrist tendencies in the Eastern Steppe, like making the sun and the moon the center of their pantheon, with the sun being supreme.

    The only distinctly Japanese part is that their sun god is a goddess, Amaterasu, not a male god like Tengri. Similar to their creator god being not a male god but a male-female pair, brother and sister as well as wife and husband (Izanami and Izanagi).

    The Emishi-an religion must have had a much more central role for women, including female shamans. So the proto-Tengrist religion that the Yayoi people brought with them, was passed through the filter of the Emishi-an religion, and the synthesis is a sun goddess and a male-female pair of creator gods.

    Queen Himiko is described as a shaman, and whether she was a Yayoi-type arrival, or an Emishi-an who had been assimilated into the newly-forming Japanese culture, she reflects the Emishi-an influence, since women didn't hold religious roles like that in the Steppe.

    Anyway.... back to fashion. Here's a pair of earrings from the Kofun era, 5th-6th C AD, which are unusually intact -- not just the basic hoop that attaches to the ear, but the ornate dangly pieces that hang from them. Usually, these earrings are only found or displayed in museums as the basic hoop (like all of them in the Met's collection):

    https://www.tnm.jp/modules/r_exhibition/index.php?controller=item&id=7413&lang=en

    Very similar earrings are used in the reconstruction of a Kofun-era woman's clothing in this museum exhibit in Japan (click image to enlarge):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Japanese_Figure_(29435641613).jpg

    At the bottom of the dangly pieces, there is a distinctive Xiongnu icon of the disc-shaped sun and crescent-shaped moon, oriented vertically, with the crescent moon opening up below the sun.

    Here is what they look like from a Xiongnu grave, and as they have been incorporated into the Mongolian Soyombo symbol, which appears on their national flag:

    https://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/980867

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyombo_symbol

    With earrings like these, that babe with the red face-paint looks like she just dismounted her horse from the Steppe during the reign of the Xiongnu.

    As in the other examples, this ties the Japanese specifically to the Xiongnu -- not just the Steppe in some vague general way, or some vague time period. Only during that time-and-place, did this symbol become born and spread among its descendants -- whether those who eventually became the Mongolians or the Japanese.

    This is not a widespread or universal icon, even for people whose pantheon is focused on the sun and moon duo. It's specifically from the Eastern Steppe during the 2nd half of the 1st millennium BC.

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  25. Panasonic is from Osaka -- no wonder they were so big on style in their consumer electronics. Nobody else came close. I don't know why I didn't look into their regional origins before, it must've slipped my mind.

    It's like Minolta being the only Japanese camera company from Osaka -- and famous for their "Minolta / Rokkor colors", more rich and saturated.

    And then there's Capcom being from Osaka -- highly theatrical, style-centric video games, whether in the arcade or on a home console. Nintendo is from nearby Kyoto, also in Kansai, not Tokyo or Kanto.

    Places with non-standard dialects tend to be more theatrical. They're far from the meta-ethnic frontier (in Japan, the Eastern / Northern frontier with the Emishi / Ainu), so they don't have to cooperate so much and get along with each other.

    They can get rowdy, speak without super-duper politeness, tell it like it is, and let their emotions show. They can fly off the rails, and it won't matter, since the meta-ethnic nemesis isn ot lurking just around the corner.

    Sharp is the other big electronics company from Osaka, although they're not as style-centric as Panasonic.

    And for audio equipment, Onkyo is from Osaka -- I'm sure their stuff has the audio equivalent of "Minolta colors". Something warm, rich, vibrant, and really ALIVE that the more polite, staid, formal companies from the Greater Tokyo region just could not produce.

    I've always heard good things about Onkyo, so maybe next time I see something of theirs at the thrift store, I'll take a chance on it -- as long as it says "Made in Japan"! ^_^ Don't want anything made in a shithole slave colony that merely has legacy branding...

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  26. Scored this Panasonic cassette recorder / player from 1970, with one hell of a Space Age chrome carrying handle.

    https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/panasonic_rq_209rq20.html

    It still works! I'm listening to it play the Electric Dreams soundtrack right now as I type. ^_^

    I'm guessing a previous owner had the belt replaced at some point. There's no way the original belt from 1970 would still be tight enough. It doesn't want to rewind, though. But at least it plays and fast-forwards. And that eject button nearly throws it across the room -- back when things were made WITH STRENGTH!

    It wasn't made with a built-in mic, and it didn't come with it at the thrift store, although it does have the original power cord, so I don't need to use batteries. Nice! I'll be on the look-out for a mic to plug in, since it records as well as plays.

    Only $4 at a thrift store on the unglamorous side of town -- remember that those $50, $100, $200 prices you see from online re-sellers are just letters to Santa Claus, they never sell for that. They just collect dust in some Boomer's storage unit, unsold, until they croak and their estate winds up in a thrift store, where it can finally find an appreciative owner who will get it without having to go into debt.

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  27. At the same unglam thrift store, I scored a nice Midcentury Modern cafe / dining / desk chair for only $7. Made in Italy, sleek lines, stained in a medium-brown w/ a little orange, woven chair back in the same color, and leather seat in the same color too. Very rare to find one with a leather seat!

    Well, that seat has seen a little wear in its day, so I'll just give it a little saddle soap + leather conditioner treatment, and it'll be feeling alllll rejuvenated and fittin' for sittin'. ^_^

    I've gotten so much treasure from that one store, it's amazing...

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  28. A little while back, found this amazingly-packaged Sylvania Mood Glo light-bulb from the early '70s, for only a few bucks. The green one.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/315161989042

    Still unused in the original packaging -- complete with Mod-clothed model babe from one hell of a photo shoot, all around the package. They really don't put any effort into packaging anymore.

    The package is huge, too, and is totally open in front so you can see and feel the bulb. Almost like it's a stand for displaying an art object -- which is how I'm going to use it. Dunno if I'll plug it in, except on rare occasions. It's too cool to *never* use, after all...

    And the cross-section of the package is a hexagon -- very Mod. When was the last time lightbulbs came in a package whose cross-section was anything other than a rectangle?

    Time to, like, expand the doors of perception into, like, the hexagonal dimension... y'know what I mean, man?

    It still has the original price tag on it -- $4 from SupeRX drug store, a totally common all-American drug store, owned by Kroger (before they got bought out). Imagine any ol' podunk CVS selling something this cool and mesmerizing these days!

    Hey, it was the '70s, man...

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  29. Also on a y2k note, FINALLY scored a pair of 7 For All Mankind jeans at the thrift store, and for only $8! They're not super-rare, but are either the later ones that were not made in USA, or not in my size. It's not easy still having a 29-inch waist like I did in college... ^_^

    This pair fit *perfectly*, waist, inseam, everything. And made in USA! Button-fly (they stole this luxury from us long ago), low-rise but not insanely gimmicky low-rise, slim-fit through the knee, then flared below the knee, almost like bell-bottoms. This was still when the late '60s and '70s were enjoying a revival -- Austin Powers, That '70s Show, Lollapalooza, etc.

    Their mens jeans started production in 2002, so these must've been among the first ones made. They have the lighter-blue color on the thigh and seat, and darker-blue color toward the bottom.

    Contrasting washes were a big thing back then -- beginning with the acid wash trend of the late '80s and early '90s, then these big patches of lighter / faded colors on the upper leg during y2k, as well as the "whisker" marks of light / faded color across the upper thigh during y2k (I think those were girls' jeans only, though... so hot, drawing attention to the thighs w/o writing something gimmicky in block text a la JUICY or PINK).

    It was meant to suggest "distressed", but not in a decomposing, deliberately ugly, grunge-y way. More like worn-in, developing a natural patina or marbling or whatever, due to some regions seeing heavier use than others.

    I wanted a pair of these so bad back then, but they were too expensive. And when I bought designer, I figured why not go for the really good stuff -- Helmut Lang. I still have several pairs of those from y2k, and can still wear them. They're not loose or wide-ankled, though, so I can't make the Zoomer cuties do a double-take when they walk by (like one of them did last night at the supermarket while I was breaking in the 7 jeans).

    Thankfully I had the foresight back then to also get some really wide-ankled pants, which I still wear. Chocolate brown cotton twill, by Costume National.

    And since then, I've picked up a vintage pair of Lee jeans with pretty wide ankles, from the original '70s, not retro '70s of y2k.

    I'd be lying if I said I'm not planning on wearing shorter shirts with the 7 jeans, just so the signature stiching on the butt pockets is on full display. It's so iconic, and really hit me with a nostalgia wave when I saw them. (The one that looks like 2 hills with a valley in between, not some of their other patterns, which I don't find nostalgic, even though they're recognizable).

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  30. If only Zoomers left the house, they'd be in for a real treat... sadly they're still mostly bedrotmaxxing 24/7. You can only find them at supermarkets, since they do have to avoid starvation, and they don't have their QE-infinity Uber Eats buxx anymore. That's why I go to the supermarket multiple times a week -- where else does the general neighborhood show up together anymore?

    The flimsiest thread of that mall social atmosphere left connecting us to the good ol' days... and like a mall, but unlike the gym (which replaced the nightclub), there's no cost for entry. Just stroll right on in, mill around, see and be seen, only buy something if you feel like it.

    ...Like Haagen-Dazs Irish Cream Brownie ice cream, for only $1.80 a pint! There were 2 pints in an end-of-aisle sale display, and I got both of them. It's just as good as it sounds -- Irish cream, brownie, Haagen-Dazs.

    Why haven't they taken up my killer idea for an ad campaign? "Dazs she or Dazsn't she?" Our culture is too fucked to even exploit free, unsolicited, high-quality ideas. It's not ugly or ironic or insulting enough to the audience. Not Reddit-friendly.

    Oh well, at least we have the ice cream itself to distract from the collapse of trust and the resulting implosion of our culture.

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  31. I picked up a CRT TV set by RCA from 1993, still made in USA, for $15. It's a bit bigger than the 11 or 13-inch RCA set that I already have (from 1985). I figured I might watch some old TV series on it, using a DVD player...

    It only has an RF input, which I remember being the standard back then. And yet, no DVD player ever made has an RF output. Not even my Sony "Made in Japan" DVD player from the '90s, which is otherwise amazing and miles beyond the plastic feature-less slop that was churned out during the 2000s and especially the 2010s.

    That's when I discovered the Great Destruction of Backwards Compatability, which was inflicted on our society during the DVD era.

    Very few TV sets in 2000 had composite inputs, let alone S-video, component, HDMI, etc. They had RF, or the twin-lead inputs if they were really old.

    So, why didn't DVD players reflect the TV sets that people had, by building them with an RF output, to connect to the TV right out of the box?

    That's what video game consoles did, at least through the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis. Even the N64 sold an adapter that converted the composite signal into an RF one, so it could hook into an RF-only TV.

    Well, the electronics cartel decided that they were going to permanently sever our connection to the good ol' days, with DVDs. Not only were you expected to throw out your entire library of VHS tapes, and buy expensive DVDs instead -- you had to buy an expensive new DVD player to play them on.

    But wait, that's not all! Since the companies that make DVD players also make TV sets, why not really amp up the conspiracy and force you to buy a new TV on top of it! That's why they refused to build an RF output into their DVD players, to force you to throw out your expensive old TV and buy an even more expensive new TV, with composite input or higher.

    Were they merely unaware that the DVD players they made would not connect to most people's TV sets? No -- they knew, that's why they manufactured an external RF output device, which took in the composite cables from the DVD player, and spit out an RF signal to the RF-only TV. It needed its own power supply, sometimes hardwired and sometimes with a plug-in power supply that would eventually get lost and render it useless.

    These RF modulators were not free either, like "Well, you don't want to buy a whole new TV? OK, we'll throw in this external RF modulator, since we didn't build it into the DVD player." They were $25! What a total scam -- having to pay a $25 premium, over $50 in today's worthless money, just to make it work at all, not for a higher-quality product.

    Radio Shack even launched a commercial campaign, making fun of you for being so stupid and gullible to think that your new DVD player or video game console would connect to your RF TV set made less than 10 years ago. Pay the obligatory $25 premium, or you'll ruin Christmas by buying a DVD player!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTI1WttCXcM

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  32. I bought one of these RF modulators at a thrift store for a few bucks, w/o the power supply, miraculously found another power supply that matched its needs -- but there was too much wiggle-room in the power supply port! What a total piece of useless garbage! Not like, you had to wiggle it a little bit, and then it would stay connected. It wouldn't stay connected for more than a second, and you could very easily bend the port this way and that. I threw that junk in the trash.

    Fortunately, I found another RF modulator, with a hard-wired power cord (no bulky transformer at the end), for $1.50 at a thrift store. And it actually works. So now I can connect a DVD player, or the composite cables from a Super Nintendo, to the RF-only TV, and watch some vintage TV on a vintage TV set.

    I threw in an X-Files disc, and although the picture is totally fine, the audio is in mono and the speaker is a bit small -- fairly typical for old TV sets. They weren't meant to be an immersive, stereo-scopic, stereo-phonic wraparound sensory cavern home theater.

    So it seems like the biggest upgrade you can make is simply plugging a pair of stereo speakers into the DVD player, and send just the video signal to the TV (via the RF modulator). It's really the sound that makes its stereo and sensorily immersive -- hardly any TV shows or movies were made in stereo-scopic images, i.e. 3D, with the glasses for it, and so on. There's just one screen you're looking at for the image.

    Well, mono sound, coming out of a fairly small speaker with no separate tweeter and woofer or sub-woofer, is anti-immersive. You can zero in on exactly where the sound is coming from, and it doesn't match the image -- their lips are moving on the TV screen, yet you can locate their sounds coming from a little box in the bottom-left corner of the set, off the screen.

    For most purporses, it wasn't that big of a deal. But if you want to get into the environment, you need stereo speakers, however simple.

    The image quality doesn't really fall off while going from composite to RF, if it began as a high-quality DVD image. VHS tapes that you taped off of TV, on the crappy speed setting, well... but DVD looks fine on an RF-only TV.

    Also, no annoying vertical black bars, since TV has almost always been shot in 4:3, not widescreen, in order to fit TV screens rather than movie screens.

    The "larger" TV screen sizes from upgrading to DVD-friendly TVs was mostly just the widescreen thing. They're not much taller, if at all, compared to '90s CRTs. They're just wider, for viewing movies on DVD in widescreen. Unless you're buying a gigundo home theater TV set. But that's an even bigger cha-ching than just upgrading to one with composite, component, HDMI, ect. inputs and an LCD rather than CRT picture.

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  33. So far, CRTs are only popular with video game junkies. But they should be popular with TV junkies, too -- as long as you hook up a DVD player to some stereo speakers, it'll be better than when you watched the show originally back in the '90s or earlier.

    And yes, you can buy RF modulators that receive an HDMI signal, from a computer or laptop, in case you want to watch a TV show streaming from your computer or laptop, but on a vintage TV screen and/or speaker.

    You can even watch livestreams that way. There was a guy on Mumei's /vt general who had an old CRT (looked like from the '70s) hooked up to a computer, presumably via an RF modulator with HDMI input that he got from Amazon. He always used to post, "Moom on the telly!" with a snapshot of his vintage CRT screen displaying the virtual YouTuber owl-girl as she was streaming. It looked so cool with scan-lines and not the super-fine-grained 4k look.

    There's something about the less-refined details that make it more of a "TV program" that has been produced somewhere else, and isn't invading your home. You're watching it, at some sensory distance, and therefore psychological / emotional distance. When it's in 4k, the streamer might as well be in the same room with you. Too much.

    A word to the wise, though -- the reviews on those HDMI-to-RF modulators are all over the place, so if you want to watch a cute Japanese anime bunny-girl playing Final Fantasy 2 (pixel remaster) on a vintage CRT TV, be sure to find a modulator that doesn't have many problems.

    Seriously, they need to start making PC's and laptops with an RF output! Bring back backwards compatability!

    Our culture is collapsing, so that will never happen, and that's where these legions of electronics sellers on Amazon or wherever come in. Unfortunately, you can't find a vintage "Made in Japan" HDMI-to-RF modulator, they didn't make such things back then...

    The deliberate destruction of backwards compatibility really was one of the signs of the decline and then collapse of American culture, beginning in the 2000s. Sadly, even Glorious Nippon was in on this conspiracy, from DVD makers to Sony PS3 makers.

    You can also use a VCR as an RF modulator, BTW. They still made them with RF output, and later models could take in a composite or even S-video signal. Supposedly, their RF modulators are higher quality, too, than the standalone ones -- they were part of a serious machine, a VCR, not some dinky little peripheral.

    I haven't tried this, cuz VCR's are impossible to find in thrift stores anymore. And the one I have is a DVD / VCR combo -- and whaddaya know, the VCR is contaminated by the DVD player! It doesn't do RF output.

    I'll keep my eyes peeled for a vintage Made in Japan VCR with S-video input, in a strong all-metal box. Maybe with some simulated woodgrain and chrome trim, if I'm lucky! Somewhere out there, there's a Panasonic with my name on it!

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  34. All for tonight. I'll Japan-post again soon, just figured I'd do some thrift-blogging since I haven't done so in awhile. You gotta go to the unglamourous parts of town, where the yuppie re-seller scum are too afraid to go. (They're safe, just not trendy or a destination, so trendoids fear the unglam-ness would stick to them and make fellow strivers think they weren't visiting the right zip codes.)

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  35. Roland is also from Osaka! Talk about style and theatricality -- they mastered the art of the synthesizer, without which there would be no New Wave or Italodisco or City Pop, not to mention their drum machines, and heavy-duty PC speakers. Most of that was still Made in Japan through the '90s. Their PC speakers are still the gold standard for vintage computer fans.

    And Boss guitar pedals are made by Roland as well! You can't add the right kind and the right amount of pizzazz to your electric guitar sound, without a Boss foot pedal! They were Made in Japan through the '80s, and command 2-3 times the price in the used market, compared to the ones made in Southeast Asia (Taiwan, then Malaysia).

    I had 2 of them in the '90s -- Flanger, and Overdrive / Distortion -- but they were made in Taiwan, so that must be why my friends and I never became global rockstars... Boomers and early Gen X-ers were the last ones to grow up nurtured by musical instruments made in Glorious Nippon, before profit-maximizing desecrated their quality by off-shoring.

    Also near the Kansai border, though in the Eastern-ish dialect region, is Shizuoka Prefecture -- home to Yamaha, the other pioneering Japanese musical instrument makers and audio equipment. Including the early stage of the synthesizer -- the Electone!

    Luna from Hololive is famous for her Electone playing streams, so much so that Yamaha made a custom Luna-themed Electone just for her!

    I was lucky to catch most of her English karaoke stream this morning. All sorts of classics from the '70s through the 2000s. ^_^

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  36. Moog is from a non-standard dialect region of America, back East -- upstate New York (ranging from the Ithaca to Buffalo areas). They recently reincarnated and relocated to Asheville, NC -- still back East, though. They invented the synthesizer, and many popular New Wave groups were still using them through the '80s (like "Blue Monday" by New Order -- who are from a non-standard dialect region in England, namely the Norf, from the Manchester area).

    Osaka, New York, and Manchester are triplets separated at birth. So are Tokyo, Los Angeles, and London.

    This ties into theatrical styles of music, like dance music. I already explained how dance music is created in the non-standard dialect regions, another form of going unhinged with no worries about politeness or suppressing one's emotions. American dance music has always come from the East Coast.

    The electric guitar, however, is more of an out West creation, peaking in Southern California. That instrument, as central as it is to American ethnogenesis, is not central to dance music or other wild and unhinged styles.

    Gibson was from Michigan, then relocated later to Tennessee -- just barely out West, lying west of the Appalachian Mountains. Similar to Yamaha, I guess, lying slightly in the standard dialect region. But his first hit instrument was not for rock -- it was guitars for Big Band jazz, WAY more dance-y and East Coast-y than rock 'n' roll.

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  37. Slight correction, 7 jeans are more of a mid-rise style. I'm used to vintage jeans that are mid-to-high rise, so anything less than that feels low-rise.

    But I've seen some REAL low-rise jeans out there, like only 2 or 3 buttons on the fly, or a 2-inch zipper on the fly. That's what I mean by gimmicky low-rise, but maybe others simply call that low-rise.

    In any case, they're awesome, and they are not uncommon -- so keep your eyes peeled for them in thrift stores. I got lucky with the $8 price, usually they're more like $15, but even that is a steal -- if they're the Made in USA type.

    Also, there are examples on ebay with the original price tag still on them -- they were $225! Holy shit, I remember them being over $100, but not that high. That's when you make a day trip to New York to visit Century 21 or Tokio 7, or buy used on ebay, or on Yoox or whatever it is now (Real Real, Depop, etc.). And while you're there, might as well get Helmut Lang instead of 7.

    Or so I thought back then. I really should've gotten one pair of 7's -- now I do! ^_^

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  38. Still waiting to find a pair of Diesel jeans, another iconic butt pocket stitching pattern from y2k, as long as they're Made in Italy (not Turkey or wherever after their heyday), in my size. I've seen a few pairs over the years, but either made in a shithole or way too big in the waist.

    Dior Homme had another iconic stitching pattern, are y2k, made in a 1st-world country... but looking back on examples, they're far more slim-fitting and precursors to the skinny jean explosion of the late 2000s and 2010s. Hardly any in a flared leg, bootcut, etc. They were always more oriented toward the gay crowd, and I never did buy a pair of them, even 2nd-hand.

    As I recall, most of the big Japanese designers had flared legs in y2k. Japanese designer stuff has always had an avant-garde-y look, but I don't think they were ever gay-coded. That was more the stuff coming out of the decadent collapsed empires in Europe, like Britain and France.

    Score another W for Glorious Nippon! ^_^

    And the Euro designers, at least back then, who were more Japanese-y and less flamboyantly gay, were from non-empires -- Belgium, the Netherlands, Sweden to a lesser extent. And Italy -- united as a peninsula, but hasn't been an empire since the Roman era.

    Gay-ness in Europe really comes from the former British, French, Spanish, German, Austrian, and Ottoman empires, not Scandinavia or the Low Countries or Switzerland or even Italy for the most part (it's a little gay, due to foreign imperial influence, but natively it hasn't been gay since it was an empire, namely during the decadent collapse stage of the Roman Empire).

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    1. That's why there's so many closeted homosexual Muslims in the Middle East, compared to the Maghreb or Iran - they're all part of the collapsed former Ottoman empire.

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  39. Everyone gets the wrong impression of the Netherlands due solely to the laid-back approach to drugs and prostitution in Amsterdam. So they have a very open red light district -- so what?

    Their men don't dress like femboys like they do in South Korea (collapsed Joseon dynasty) or much of collapsing America, Weimar Germany, or fin-de-siecle Europe in the imperial areas (like Berlin, Vienna, Paris, etc. -- not so much in Amsterdam).

    There are no legions of blue-hairs, pink-hairs, and etc.-hairs, even in the alt / edgy sub-cultures. They have tattoos at most, and rarely the extensive body piercing or other modifications.

    Being the most tolerant of gays doesn't mean they are actually gay themselves -- the Netherlands, like Sweden, is famously drab and sober and bordering on puritanical, aesthetically speaking.

    The natives joke about having boring and drab personalities -- *not* gay.

    So it was only natural that the avant-garde-y Euro designers who felt like kindred spirits with the Japanese, were from Antwerp or Milan, instead of Paris, London, Berlin, or Vienna.

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  40. Is the Japanese ethnonym "Yamato" actually of Ainu / Emishi linguistic origin, rather than Japonic linguistic origin?

    I'll round up all these explorations about "Yamato" in a standalone post, but to put down the last marker in the trail for now -- what if Yamato is not of Japonic origin?

    All theories that I've read assume that it's Japonic, and all of them assume that it's segmented "yama + to". Even my theory that it's segmented "ya + ma + to" and having to do with horses, assumes it's Japonic.

    So I will say: if it's of Japonic origin, it definitely does NOT have to do with mountains. Having to do with horses is far more likely.

    BUT, what if it's not of Japonic origin? There are so many words in Japanese whose etymology is uncertain -- maybe they're not Japonic, then. Maybe they're surviving examples of Emishi-an languages, like Ainu.

    This is not a controversial approach in general when dealing with the Japanese language and the land of Japan -- sure, the Emishi-an speakers were there first, some of their words may have carried over into the period when those speakers switched to Japonic.

    But the ethnonym of the very group that arrived *after* the Emishi, whose language *displaced* the Emishi-an languages, and whose genes now predominate? That would seem to be the LAST place that an Emishi-an place name or tribal name would survive!

    BTW, the Emishi were not genocided -- they were simply much smaller in population size compared to the Wa arrivals. So even if every single Emishi person survived, they would have made up maybe 5-10% of the combined Wa + Emishi population.

    And in Japan today, Jomon-type DNA is right around 10% of the Japanese genepool, so it looks like they were neither genocided (in which case their DNA would be absent), nor was it a small elite group of Wa arrivals who converted a large native population (in which case, Jomon DNA would be 90% and Wa DNA would be 10% of Japan's genepool today).

    It looks like the two groups simply formed a cultural coalition, and then began intermarrying to form a new homogenous population. The Wa were far larger in number cuz they were not hunter-gatherer-fishermen like the Emishi (who only domesticated one species, the adzuki bean). The Wa were former nomadic pastoralists from the Eastern Steppe, some / many of whom had begun to shift subsistence mode toward sedentary grain agriculture (like rice). Pastoralism and agriculture support larger population sizes than hunting, gathering, and fishing.

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  41. Of course the dynamics of the formation of the Wa + Emishi cultural coalition was not totally peaceful, there were definitely wars fought over it, with the Emishi resistance gradually migrating further to the east and north, ultimately into Hokkaido.

    But, after the Wa won the wars, and did not try to genocide the Emishi as poor winners, the Emishi decided to join the Wa in a cultural coalition rather than keep fighting forever. After awhile, they started intermarrying and mixed their genes into a fairly homogeneous genepool by the present day.

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  42. Incidentally, the "Wa" ethnonym for the continental Asians who arrived first in Korea and then the Japanese archipelago, *does* seem to be of Japonic origin.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Japonic/wa

    It is not a colorful descriptive tribal name, like "piebald horse", it simply means "We / Us" as opposed to "They / Them". And it applies to the broad ethnic group, not just one tribe or place.

    So, it's like many ethnonyms around the world, which simply mean "Us, the real people, as opposed to all the various lesser wannabe Them's out there".

    In Japanese, "wa" grew into "ware" for the 1st person singular pronoun, and then by total reduplication, into the 1st person plural / collective pronoun, "ware-ware".

    It may be related to the Old Korean word for "We / Us", "wu".

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  43. OK, back to the Emishi-an linguistic origin of "Yamato". Recall the Chinese confusion about the nature of the 3rd consonant, the stop, between being "t" or "d". What if this was not about voicing and rendaku (a Japonic phenomenon), but about a stop consonant in Emishi-an that was not readily available in Chinese?

    In Alonso de la Fuente's reconstruction of Proto-Ainu, the main distinction of the consonant series is not voicing -- it was palatalization. Emishi-an languages did not have voiced obstruents, and this was carried over into Proto-Japonic -- much like the voicing distinction in Proto-Indo-European being lost after it was put through the filter of a Uralic (probably Samoyedic) language when Tocharian was being synthesized. Proto-Uralic also relies on palatalization, not voicing, to distinguish its main series of consonants.

    The nature of the palatalization is not 100% clear -- it could be a glide element like "y", since that's how many of the palatalized consonants in Ainu look, as well as in Modern Japanese, which has extensive palatalization with "y". In the case of palatalized "r" (which Alonso de la Fuente reconstructs as "l", but I favor palatalized "r" in order to keep the model simple and symmetric), it might have been closer to the sibilant "z" type element in the palatized "r" of Czech and other Balto-Slavic languages -- as in the name of the Czech composer Dvořák.

    In any case, perhaps the Chinese were confused about the stop in "Yamatai" due to it being palatalized, rather than non-palatalized, when they were most familiar with voiced vs. voiceless.

    Recall that the Chinese writers heard about Yamatai during the 3rd C AD at the latest, and wrote about it circa 300 AD. So their language stage was the final point of Old Chinese, called Eastern Han Chinese, or the early point of Middle Chinese.

    Old Chinese did not have palatalized consonants. However, by its final stage, Eastern Han Chinese, many stops were beginning to be palatalized. It was a gradual process, not totally standardized at this stage. Middle Chinese is when palatalized obstruents become standard.

    So, during the 3rd C AD, the Chinese did not have a fully standardized distinction of palatalization. If they heard it in some other language, it would have confused them somewhat.

    And even when Chinese did get palatalization, it was more like an affricate in the dental place of articulation -- similar to the sound of English "ch". So, using a sibilant element to palatalize the stop, not using a glide like "y" to give "ty" from "t".

    The Japanese and Ainu palatalization distinction favors a "y"-like glide element, rather than a sibilant element overall (with a few exceptions).

    So if the stop in "Yamatai" was "ty", the Chinese would not have been able to reproduce that. They could have done "ya + ma + chai" or "ya + ma + tsai" -- but not "ya + ma + tyai".

    They could tell it was like a "t", but distinct from it in a minimal pair way. And since the main distinction for consonants in Middle Chinese was voicing, they represented the stop as though it were the marked version of "t" in their own language -- namely, "d".

    But other scribes didn't emphasize the markedness of the stop, just it's place of articulation and its lack of voicing, ignoring the palatalization, and represented it with "t".

    So, this is an entirely different way that the Chinese could have been confused about the nature of the stop in "Yamatai" -- it wasn't due to rendaku or any other Japonic phenomenon, it was due to the different nature of palatalization in the Emishi-an languages as opposed to the Middle Chinese way of palatalizing dental stops.

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  44. All right, so what could "Yamatai" or really "Yamatyai" have meant in an Emishi-an language? Well, the reconstruction of Proto-Ainu only takes us back to around 700 AD at the earliest, when Japan is already in the Nara period -- looong after the final Jomon, Yayoi, and Kofun periods that saw the initial arrival of Wa people into the Japanese islands.

    So, we can only guess based on Proto-Ainu, which is at least 400 years after the attestation of "Yamatai" by Chinese writers. But, that's the best we can do.

    I don't know much at all about Ainu, but I can at least look over this list of Proto-Ainu reconstructions:

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Ainu_reconstructions

    The two crucial problems for theories about "Yamato" being Japonic are:

    1) The meaning of the "yama" being obscure.

    2) The connection to "-to" being equally obscure, and whether or not there's a morpheme boundary between "yama" and "to", with rendaku applying, in order to explain the Chinese confusion.

    Well, an Emishi-an origin of the word can avoid both of these problems.

    Is there a word in Proto-Ainu that is like "yama"? Why, yes there is --

    "yam", meaning "chestnut"

    I.e. the distinctive Japanese chestnut (the Ainu never visited continental Eurasia, and were not referring to the broad family of chestnuts -- only the type that grew in Japan).

    Great! A distinctly Japanese-island plant name. Not a vague plant name like "tree", or a vague geological word like "mountain". "Chestnut" is a specific type of plant, just like a piebald horse is a specific type of animal.

    So we've solved the first problem -- a clear meaning of "yam", a plausible place name or tribal name.

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  45. Now to solve the second problem -- there's no morpheme boundary between "a" and "t", but between "m" and "a".

    Is there a Proto-Ainu word beginning with "a", followed by a "ty", and then ending in "ai" or at least "a"? The nature of that final vowel / diphthong is not clear in the Chinese rendition, though presumably it's close to the vowel written as a schwa in Proto-Japonic.

    Yes, there are two related kin terms for male elder in the family --

    "ààtyá", meaning "father"

    "atya", meaning "uncle"

    I have no idea how the accent pattern should work in "yam + atya / aatya", so a specialist could resolve which of the two kin terms belongs in the second position. But it won't affect the meaning much, just which male elder kinsman it is.

    Ainu morphology works just like Japanese, and Germanic for that matter, when forming compound nouns. It's head-final, where the last element of the compound is the basic broad core meaning, and the early elements get progressively specific.

    In Japanese, "uma musume" semantically is "horse + girl" meaning "horse-girl". It's a kind of girl. Which specific type of girl? A girl who is horse-like, rather than cat-like or fox-like or bear-like.

    So in Ainu, "yam + (a)atya" semantically is "chestnut + father/uncle", meaning "chestnut father/uncle". It's a type of father/uncle. The father/uncle of what? Of the chestnut.

    That is, "father/uncle to the chestnut", as in a custodian or steward over a particular grove of chestnut trees within the tribe's territory, i.e. a responsible adult guardian over a child. This meaning is more likely if it's "uncle" -- it's common to refer to non-blood-related male elders as "uncle" if they're a guardian over a child.

    Or as a domesticator of the species as a whole, in the sense of being a progenitor or involved in the genetic conception of a child, not just being its responsible adult guardian. This meaning is more likely if it's "father" -- that's more about contributing his genes to blood-related offspring, and not a possibly pseudo or surrogate male relative like "uncle".

    Either way, or both ways, being a father/uncle to the Japanese chestnut.

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  46. Do chestnut trees define the places referred to by "Yamatai"? Yes! Recall the 2 main theories being that Yamatai is in Northern Kyushu, or the region around Nara (Kinki, Kansai, etc.).

    See this map on the distribution of wild and cultivated types of Japanese chestnut species in Japan:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-80696-1

    This suggests that the Yamatai referred to by the Chinese circa 300 AD, was in the Nara region, not the Kyushu region.

    There are wild chestnuts in Southern Kyushu, but not in the north. Near Nara, there are wild species as well as one major domesticated / cultivated species, which is from the old Tanba Province, roughly the Kyoto Prefecture of today.

    Again, I think "Yamatai / Yamato" began as a tribal name, and then became two separate place names based on the spread of that clan's influence, like the various place names related to the Gauls in Western Eurasia.

    So, where did the Yamatai tribe begin? IDK, that's irrelevant -- just as long as there are lots of chestnut trees around. Technically, the tribe could have begun in Southern Kyushu, where there are wild chestnuts. They assumed the tribal name Yamatai based on their stewardship over these chestnut groves, and named the territory after themselves. Later, they migrated into Western Honshu, grew more influential by the time they reached the Nara region, and named that area after themselves as well.

    Or, the tribe originated in Western / Central Honshu, named the region around Nara after themselves, and then some of them migrated westward and southward, naming Northern Kyushu after themselves as well.

    Despite not knowing all the details, I think it's more likely that they originated in Honshu, where chestnuts are more plentiful in both wild and domesticated varieties, and where the central imperial court would arise during the Nara period.

    The Chinese writers describe Yamatai as being ruled over by Queen Himiko, who united dozens of tribes who were previously at war with each other for many decades. That sounds like the beginning of state centralization in Japan, which happened around Nara / Kyoto, not Kyushu.

    The fact that there are lots of chestnut groves there is further support, compared to there being only some chestnut groves in Kyushu, and even then in Southern Kyushu rather than Northern Kyushu.

    Only after the tribe of the Yamato united many of the other tribes under Queen Himiko, did the term Yamato gradually come to refer to the new Japanese ethnicity -- a coalition of Wa and Emishi people, united and centralized around a polity in the old Kinki region (Nara / Kyoto), later intermarrying and merging their genepools.

    After the formation of this cultural, political, and eventually genetic coalition, the old ethnonyms Wa and Emishi fell by the wayside -- now, everybody in the synthesis coalition was Yamato.

    ...Except for the resistance among the Emishi, who gradually migrated northward into Tohoku and Hokkaido, and who formed coalitions with other peoples around the Sea of Okhotsk. That new coalition would become the Ainu, who largely left behind their older ethnonym Emishi, except for the "Enchiw" of Sakhalin Island.

    Ainu ethnogenesis belongs to the post-Nara period, like the 2nd millennium AD. By then, most of their ancestors had assimilated into the Yamato synthesis culture (resulting from Wa + Emishi).

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  47. "But I thought the Emishi / Ainu only lived in the east and north of Honshu, and Hokkaido, not western Honshu or Kyushu" -- wrong! There are Emishi-an place names in Western Honshu, Kyushu, possibly Southern Korea, and even the Ryukuan Islands!

    I'll get to that in a later series, on the Emishi-an roots of Japanese people and culture.

    But suffice it to say for now, that other pro and amateur scholars have already identified Ainu-like place names in all of Japan, not just Northern Honshu and Hokkaido.

    They are more plentiful in Northern Honshu and Hokkaido because the Emishi-an languages survived longer there, whereas their speakers assimilated to Japonic much earlier in Kyushu, Western / Central Honshu, the Ryukuan Islands, and Southern Korea.

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  48. So then, how did an Emishi-an place name or tribal name become the ethnonym for the new synthesis culture of Wa + Emishi?

    Does that suggest that the tribe was Emishi-an? Maybe who had assimilated to the new culture, but wanted to keep their old tribal name out of respect for their ancestors?

    Not necessarily -- the tribe could have been Wa, but who appropriated a native place name or tribal name for themselves.

    We've done that in America -- European-origin people call their state "Ohio," which is from an Iroquoian word "ohi:yo" meaning "great river". We have 0% Native American DNA, and 0% of us speak a New World language.

    Our people-name has an Indo-Euro suffix, "Ohio-an", but that's it. The main meaning is carried by two Native American morphemes.

    Ditto for Minnesota and Minnesotans, Michigan and Michiganders, Tennessee and Tennesseeans...

    In fact, Canada and Canadians, both are of Native etymology (Iroquoian for "town / settlement").

    And in even greater fact, America and Americans, are of native etymology. I didn't even consider this, cuz I'm American and take it for granted. The received BS wisdom is that it's derived from the Latin rendering of the first name of Amerigo Vespucci, some guy who had nothing to do with the Americas, which violates all sorts of principles for place-name formation.

    Wouldn't you know it? -- there's a perfectly good pre-Columbian language origin of America, named after a mountain range in Nicaragua, in a Mayan language. This obeys the rules of place-name formation, so in the absence of a better choice, this is infinitely more likely the origin of America, not the Vespucci theory.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_of_the_Americas#Named_after_a_Nicaraguan_mountain_range

    While we're at it, the origin of the most American state in the union, California, is of pre-Columbian origin, not some ridiculous theory about a fictional place in a contemporary novel, which is even more risible than the Vespucci theory of America. The one about "kali forno" meaning "high mountains" in the native Yuman-Cochimi languages obeys the rules of place-name formation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology_of_California#Kali_forno

    If anything, word-of-mouth circulated about this pre-Columbian place name, and the Iberian Spanish author of the novel appropriated it for a fictional place name in his novel. He could not have coined "California" ex nihilo -- too many syllables, too coincidentally matching the pre-Columbian place-name. The only Indo-Euro element is the suffix "-ia" -- he could have come up with that on his own, like "Ohio-an" from "Ohio".

    And even if he derived the word on his own (unlikely), the idea that explorers would take this particular fantasy place-name from this particular novel and apply it to the California region in the Americas, is ridiculous.

    People don't appropriate mass-media culture like that. Nobody has named their country, state, city, or even neighborhood, after Alderaan, Tatooine, Dagobah, or some other fantastical place-name in Star Wars, the most influential cultural work of the 20th century.

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  49. If people use a place-name from some fantastical, mythological work, it's from a very old one, giving it the suggestion of antiquity and tradition.

    Like all the Saharo-Arabian place names in America -- Canaan, Memphis, Zion, etc. Those come from an identifiable work, created by specific authors (whose names are not known), i.e. the Hebrew Bible.

    ...not a contemporary trendy novel from the Early Modern era, as though we had chosen Lilliput from Gulliver's Travels.

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  50. So the Japanese case probably matches our own in America. A tribe of Wa people (maybe with a small number of Emishi converts) appropriated an Emishi-an tribal name or place name for themselves, then named the territories under their control with their (appropriated) tribal name, and went on to unite many other tribes (of Wa or Emishi origin) into a single polity under Queen Himiko, leading to a new synthesis culture and state, both of which took on the Yamatai / Yamato name as well.

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  51. Final remark, the chestnut is not a minor symbol of Japanese culture -- it's central. It's like the pumpkin in America, which is native to America -- pumpkin pie, pumpkin spice latte, pumpkin spice everything, pumpkins as jack-o-lanterns for Halloween, pumpkins displayed for Thanksgiving, etc. Pumpkins, pumpkins, and more pumpkins.

    Well in Japan, the fall harvest is chestnuts, chestnuts, and more chestnuts. Just like pumpkin spice in America, they have chestnut-flavored everything, especially during the fall and winter. And they're Japanese chestnuts, not some other species of chestnuts.

    Even in the modern era, there's a Western-derived dessert called Mont Blanc, but it's made with a distinctly Japanese ingredient -- chestnut paste.

    In Japan, Kit Kat has a fall-themed chestnut Kit Kat bar -- as well as a Mont Blanc Kit Kat bar!

    They're called "kuri" in Japanese, not "yam" as in Ainu. But they have been central to the Japanese diet for many centuries, and are an iconic symbol of Japanese culture.

    "Yam + (a)atya" in Emishi-an is like "Pumpkin-father" in American English -- not so different from Johnny Appleseed (real person, not mythological, BTW -- John Chapman).

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  52. I don't think we've reached the Year of the Five Emperors yet in the American Roman Empire parallel. I think that Obama is the American Marcus Aurelius and Trump is the American Commodus. Biden is the American Cleander who managed to gain de facto power for a few years during Commodus's time as Emperor. The real Year of the Five Emperors will come after Trump leaves office / dies / gets assassinated in his second term.

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  53. Well well well, mock-horse sacrifice, a deeply rooted religious ritual in Japan...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ema_(Shinto)

    For a culture that supposedly has no connection to the Steppe, and certainly no connection to nomadic pastoralism, and has never been horse-centric, and has only ever been a bunch of wannabe Chinese rice farmers... Glorious Nippon sure has a funny way of showing it!

    The myth of the Heavenly Piebald Colt was not just a myth. Obviously some of the progenitors of Japanese culture were nomadic pastoralists who practiced horse sacrifices, to such an extent that they had codified rules for how to maintain ritual purity while sacrificing the horse. Only in that context does Susanoo's "backwards flaying" make any sense -- as defilement of the horse-sacrificing ritual.

    At some point during their transformation from a member of the Xiongnu confederation to the continental element of the Wa + Emishi synthesis culture, the Steppe element chose to substitute fake horses for real horses to be sacrificed to the gods in order to appease and propitiate them.

    Perhaps cuz once they entered Kyushu and Western Honshu, the climate was not as favorable to nomadic horse pastoralism as the grasslands of Mongolia were, and the size of their herds shrunk considerably. At that point, a real live horse was too rare and special to sacrifice, compared to their Xiongnu days when every nuclear family had half a dozen horses.

    I don't think it was an early form of animal rights activism, since the other element in their synthesis culture -- the Emishi -- were hunter-gatherers, and would not have cared about sacrificing a horse here or there. Eventually, when their remnants became the Ainu, they joined the Northern bear cult and ritualistically sacrificed bears.

    So it would seem to be a matter of the changing subsistence mode, from Steppe pastoralism to sedentary grain agriculture. Suddenly, horses became too rare to be sacrificed for regular religious activities.

    So they made mock-horses instead -- a wooden board meant to substitute for the real-live horse. The oldest example, shown in the Wiki article, is from the mid-7th C AD from Osaka, and looks like it's carved rather than drawn or painted. But regardless of how the board was given horse-like form, it became an artificially crafted horse, to be "sacrificed" in lieu of killing a live horse.

    And these "picture-horses" (ema) are burned by the officials at the Shinto shrine or the Buddhist monastery where they are offered. They don't just hang there forever. They're a burnt offering.

    By now, they may take on various other forms like birds etc., but originally they were specifically substitutes for horses (as the name says, "ma" meaning "horse").

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  54. "Ema" is made of the words "e" for "picture" and "ma" for "horse". Because Japanese, like English, is head-final in word-formation, a "picture-horse" is a kind of horse -- not a kind of picture. What kind of horse is it? A horse that's been artifically crafted through the medium of pictures on a wooden board, rather than a real-live horse.

    If the emphasis were on these items being a kind of picture or craftwork, and only secondarily on their form being horse-like, then they would have formed the word in the other direction -- "ma-e", or "horse-picture". Just like "ukiyo-e" -- pictures of the floating world, which are a kind of picture or art. But they did not form the word that way.

    So as far as the practitioners of this ritual are concerned, these items are a kind of horse -- just a kind that is not real and living, but an artifically crafted substitute horse. But first and foremost, a kind of horse.

    You don't make a burnt offering of artwork or craftwork -- you make a burnt offering of animals or people. So these items cannot be crafts, they must be horses (artifically crafted horses). And so, the Japanese continue to practice a form of horse sacrifice (just using mock-horses), right up to the present day -- this is still a very common and widespread ritual.

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  55. The ema practice and the Susanoo narrative are important to establish the centrality of horse sacrifice in Japanese culture dating back very far, since they did not perform a related ritual -- of burying the human elite with large numbers of horses who were sacrificed for the funeral.

    This makes the Japanese unlike the Steppe cultures that the Wa originated from. But you can see why there aren't so many mass horse burials alongside elite human burials -- there weren't tons of horses as the Wa entered the Japanese archipelago, due to their changing subsistence mode. They were shedding their horse-centric pastoralist lifestyle for a more sedentary grain agricultural lifestyle.

    But that doesn't mean they had to give up all of their traditional folkways and rituals. They still wanted to sacrifice horses to propitiate the gods -- well, since we no longer have half a dozen horses per nuclear family, as we used to during our Xiongnu glory days, we might as well make mock-horses to sacrifice instead. Otherwise we'd have to give up on horse sacrifices altogether -- and nothing could be more alienating to Steppe people than that!

    And so, the ema was created to stand in for the live horse.

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  56. The ema ritual seems to be closely and originally connected to the Ikoma Shrine in the Nara region. And yes, if you're really taking these ideas seriously, you noticed that "Ikoma" has the word for "horse" in it! In fact, it has the word "koma" in it -- "child + horse" or colt, as in the Heavenly Piebald Colt.

    Sure enough, both of the alternative kanji used in its spelling refer to horses, either the character for "horse" or the one for "colt".

    As for the two alternative characters it uses for "iko", one is not normally read as "iko" or "iku" or "iki" etc. That's the one in the official title, which is followed by the character for "horse". It means "past, previous," but is read as "ou".

    The one that's read as "ikV" (where V is some vowel), is followed by the character that means "colt" -- "koma". The first character likely derives from "ikeru", meaning "fresh, living, alive".

    Perhaps it's a portmanteau or play on words? The first element referring to living, and the second element referring to a colt -- or a horse at any rate. I.e., the shrine where still-living colts are brought -- for sacrifice.

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  57. And to really drive home the separation of Chinese and Japanese cultures, there is a form of pseudo or mock-burnt offerings in Chinese folk religion -- but they're not a kind of horse, they're a kind of money:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joss_paper

    All the Chinese names refer to "paper" or "money", not to animals or people. It's a form of sacrificing a valuable amount of currency, not an animal sacrifice.

    Paper money comes from sedentary agricultural societies, not nomadic pastoralist ones. And that's precisely what Han Chinese culture is -- the sedentary agricultural society par excellence.

    What's the highest form of wealth in a sedentary ag society? Why, currency -- fungible currency, that can buy all sorts of goods and services in their high-scaled, specialized, market economy.

    What's the highest form of wealth in a nomadic pastoralist society? Livestock! The more useful, the better -- horses! You can drink their milk, like you can drink cow's milk or sheep's milk, and you can eat their meat like you can the meat of cows or sheep. You can use their hides just like you can use cow or sheep hides. You can even use all 3 for carrying and transporting stuff -- but not people. You can't ride a cow or sheep, and you can't reach top speeds for fleeing or attacking or raiding.

    On the Steppe, the horse is first and foremost like your motorcycle, which also produces its own drink for sustenance, and when it eventually wears out, it provides food and materials to be re-used. It's the wonder-animal.

    So, yet again, we see how similar Japan is to the Eastern Steppe, and how different it is from China, despite some degree of Sinicization.

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  58. Also, Japanese people are obsessed with motorcycles, to a degree that the Chinese never will be, nor the Koreans for that matter (who are intermediate).

    The Steppe spirit refuses to die, even in a modern urban environment, as long as your ancestors were nomadic horse-riders from Mongolia.

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  59. Glorious Nippon is #13 IN THE WORLD by motorcycle ownership per capita!

    https://www.nationmaster.com/nmx/ranking/motorcycle-ownership

    Indo-European countries lie above it (no surprise -- dairy-consuming Steppe descendants as well).

    And to give the fellow Steppe-descended, Altaic-speaking Koreans their due credit, they're only slightly lower than Japan, at #15.

    Turkey is respectable, and they're Indo-Euro despite being Turcophone.

    Kazakhstan at least made the top 50 -- no other Asian country shows up. Presumably if they sedentarize and urbanize enough, Mongolians will pick up motorcycles as well.

    China and Southeast Asia don't make the rankings -- they use "motorbikes" AKA scooters, not motorcycles. You can't form a gang and go raiding for loot while riding scooters, lol. Babes aren't gonna see you as a bad-boy just cuz you're riding a scooter, lol.

    Cars are modern horse-drawn chariots, motorcycles are modern horses, making motorbikes the modern... donkeys? Rickshaws?

    Time to "Steppe" aside, scooter boy, the raiders are thundering through town!

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  60. On the archaeological evidence of horse sacrifices in Kofun-era Japan, see some of the background and discussion in this freely available article:

    "The Adoption of Horse-Riding in Kofun Japan" by Sasaki (2018)

    https://www.jjarchaeology.jp/contents/pdf/vol006/6-1_023.pdf

    Suffice it to say that, as early as the Kofun era, there are some cases of entire horse skeletons buried near an elite human burial, more cases of horses that were sacrificed outside of a burial context (like a burnt horse skull), as well as cases of horse figurines being included among grave goods -- much like the "ema" practice of substituting a crafted horse for a real horse during the sacrifice.

    It is misleading to say that horse-related practices were adopted during the Kofun era -- it's more like they were re-discovered or re-introduced. The Wa people may not have brought horses with them when they first landed in Kyushu, but they came from a nomadic pastoralist Steppe origin fairly recently, and were just beginning to shed that subsistence mode in favor of rice agriculture (similar to the Jurchens later on).

    The marked increase in Steppe-like culture of the Kofun era is a re-discovery of their Steppe roots.

    Likewise, dairy consumption played little role in the diet of the typical Yamato / Japanese person from the Nara period onward... except that today, a majority or very large minority of Japanese can drink cow's milk -- not just cheese, but liquid milk, with all that lactose -- perfectly fine.

    Japanese people drinking so much milk today, and raising the cows to produce all that milk, is merely a re-discovery of their Steppe origins that had lain dormant for many centuries.

    You could cope about the production side, that they just started to raise cows for milking. But not on the demand side -- the fact that so many Japanese were primed and ready to drink milk proves that the genetic selection for ability to digest milk was already there.

    And it was not there due to dietary preferences of the Nara period onward, when dairy consumption was minor at best. Therefore it reflects a much earlier stage -- back when they were nomadic pastoralists in the Eastern Steppe, before they switched subsistence modes to rice agriculture.

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  61. There are also pastoralist livestock terms in Proto-Japonic, i.e. not borrowed from Chinese or whatever.

    "usi" -- cow

    "pitunsi" -- sheep or goat

    "uma" -- horse (widespread term in NE Asia, not necessarily borrowed via Chinese "ma")

    There's no special term for the noun "milk", but there's no such term in Proto-Indo-European either. The original sense was the verb, showing that they did perform that activity, but did not have a special noun for the liquid that resulted from it.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%82mel%C7%B5-

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  62. Recently Guutara went to the Hokkaido antenna shop in Tokyo (meaning, a way to connect with Hokkaido culture outside of Hokkaido). And wow, what she got looks like a feast from Mongolia or Kazakhstan! Corned beef, sausage, cheese, milk, and drinkable yoghurt! ^_^

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCUUmw0Qnvk

    Although Hokkaido is home to the Ainu, the Yamato people who settled there seem to be very Steppe-like. My grandmother was from there, and had no problem digesting dairy.

    That's where most of the dairy production takes place now, and they brand their products with "Hokkaido" on the packaging to such an extent, that most Japanese associate Hokkaido with dairy pastures. ^_^

    Flare said she does not like people assuming that she was raised on a dairy farm just because she comes from Hokkaido, hehe. That just shows how pervasive the link between "Hokkaido" and "dairy pastures" is in the minds of most Japanese people!

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  63. I'm watching Kson's recent vlog where she visits a sauna, and I had to pause to write down another observation about Steppe culture -- which is that the sauna or sweat lodge or similar practice derives from the Steppe.

    It precedes the pastoralist subsistence mode, since it was carried into the New World with some Native American groups. Probably more of a hunter-gatherer practice, from their shamanism days, not from their Tengrism days.

    It's attested in both the Eastern and Western Steppe, although it seems to originate from the East, since that's where the (future) Native Americans came from. Not very popular in Europe until more recent times. They're present in Korea and Japan, which are off-shoots of the Steppe, not only the Steppe proper.

    Baths don't count -- they specifically have to be about sweating together while huddled under the same roof, not just bathing.

    The only Ancient Euro mention of this practice is not from their own group, but referring to the "Scythians" -- a catch-all term for nomads of the Steppe, regardless of whether they were Eastern or Western, what language they spoke, etc. So perhaps not referring to Indo-Europeans at all.

    Even the Indo-Euro-phone "Scythians proper" were not necessarily culturally Indo-Euro. Too much of their culture looks like an Eastern Steppe culture, not Indo-Euro -- a female primordial fire goddess vs. little role for Sky Father, Animal Style aesthetics (an Eastern phenomenon), and so on. So they would be similar to the Tocharians, and Eastern culture that adopted a Western language but little else from the West.

    Even today in Europe, saunas and steam baths are only popular in places with recent arrivals from the non-Indo-Euro-phone East, like Scandinavia and Eastern Europe, which have seen cultural contact with Uralic, Turkic, and Mongolic speakers during the past 1000 or so years. Likewise in Anatolia and other Middle Eastern regions, which saw the arrival of Turkic speakers during the Dark Ages.

    Now back to Kson and Ai purifying themselves through sweating...

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  64. One more crucial fact about Eastern vs. Western Steppe influence -- there's almost no evidence of cultural transfer from West-to-East, and tons of evidence in the opposite direction.

    For one thing, the historical migrations or invasions -- those all went from the Urals / Mongolia to the West, whereas Celts, Greeks, Persians, etc., never migrated to the Altai / Ural / Mongolia region. The Iranians got stopped in the Khwarizm region of southern Central Asia. Like I said, the "Scythians proper" are not necessarily Indo-Euro culturally.

    Only Russia in the past few centuries has expanded into the Eastern Steppe and Arctic Northeastern Asia. One example, vs. zillions of migrations / invasions that went the other way, from ancient through Early Modern times.

    Aside from the Russian language being spread into the Eastern Steppe these days, there's only one or two other examples of an Indo-Euro language spreading to the east -- Tocharian for sure, and perhaps the Scythian language (if they're culturally Eastern).

    Compare that to all sorts of Uralic languages spreading into Europe, and Turkic languages expanding across the Steppe into Crimea, not to mention the southern route they took, displacing the Indo-Euro languages of southern Central Asia (e.g., Uzbek, Turkmen), some of the Caucasus (Azerbaijani), and Anatolia (Turkish).

    In most cases, these new languages represent the same people adopting a new language, not being replaced by invaders. Still, that's a form of cultural adoption -- and 95% of it went in the East-to-West direction, very little in the West-to-East direction.

    The Eastern Steppe did adopt some outside influences, but typically from China, not the Indo-Euro world.

    Chinese or Tibetan Buddhism, yes -- Christianity, no.

    It's crazy how insane Westerners have gone in the direction of "Indo-European domination", when there's far greater evidence over longer periods of time of them being dominated by the Eastern Steppe peoples. And their only basis was the recent discovery of Tocharians -- well, not such a major example, then, if they were so invisible in history that we only recently rediscovered their existence during the 20th C.

    And of course "the Scythians," which bears most of the weight of this Aryan fanfic -- and it turns out, they're not very Indo-Euro at all, apart from their language.

    The only successful Indo-Euro expansion to the east has been Russia during the past 200 or so years. But then, most of the Aryan fan-fickers hate Russia's guts, so they can't vicariously experience the one genuine example of eastward-expanding Indo-Europeans. That's what happens when you let your neocon dum-dum politics get in the way of LARP-ing!

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  65. I'm planning a separate post on the Animal Style origins, but suffice it to say for now that its earliest form is in the Hongshan culture of Northeastern "China" -- i.e., outside of China, among people who became the northern nomads from the Eastern Steppe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongshan_culture

    Specifically, these C-shaped dragons:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Neolithic_jade_dragon,_Hongshan_Culture,_Inner_Mongolia,_1971.jpg

    The key motif that's present here for the 1st time, and will get fully elaborated by the time of the Deerstones, Ordos, Xiongnu, etc. cultures, is two curvilinear lines, one branching off from the other and changing the direction of its curvature.

    Namely, that fin or whatever it is, on the upper part of the head and neck -- it's connected to the main body, but it branches off of the body, it's thinner than the body (like a branch vs. a trunk), it parallels the body's curvature for awhile, but then changes curvature -- from concave-down to concave-up.

    There's another very slight change in curvature on the mouth / snout, where it becomes concave-up instead of concave-down. It's very slight, and not part of a separate branching line, so it's not the most prototypical Animal Style element -- but it adds to the "changing curvature" theme that defines the Animal Style in formal terms.

    Also, it's an animal, not abstract, and it's of a somewhat fantastical animal at that.

    As this embryonic style develops, there will be multiple branching-off lines with multiple changes in curvature, giving it the signature lively dynamism. But here we can see it at its conception.

    One last thing to note, related to the Japanese version of this style, is that the Steppe proper style is asymmetric, whereas there is a heavy preference for symmetry inside of Japan. The preference for symmetry dates back to the Emishi-an native culture, and the Wa people incorporated this preference into the synthesis culture that became Yamato / Japanese.

    Animal Style ornamentation on Kofun-era swords shows a mix of symmetric and asymmetric composition, but generally symmetric.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokut%C5%8D

    Eventually, the asymmetric and more dynamic style would re-emerge in Japan, like those very Animal Style-looking tattoos of the Early Modern period onward. But at the outset, Japanese aesthetics carried over the preference for symmetry from the Emishi-an side of their predecessors, even in the Animal Style forms that were brought over by the Wa side of their predecessors.

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  66. Well well well, the royal clan that united Korea claimed the Xiongnu as their ancestors! Thank you for coming out and saying so, instead of future historians having to figure out the puzzle by themselves!

    In tracing the Xiongnu origins of Japanese culture, I'm occasionally checking in on the Koreans, the other Altaic speakers between Mongolia and the Pacific Ocean.

    From the Wiki on Silla, the ancient kingdom that began as one of three, then eventually united the Korean peninsula under its leadership:

    "In various inscriptions on archaeological founding such as personal gravestones and monuments, it is recorded that Silla royals considered themselves having Xiongnu ancestry through the Xiongnu prince Kim Il-je, also known as Jin Midi in Chinese sources.[19][20] According to several historians, it is possible that this unknown tribe was originally of Koreanic origin in the Korean peninsula and joined the Xiongnu confederation. Later the tribe's ruling family returned to Korea from Liaodong peninsula where they thrive, and after coming back to the peninsula they got married into the royal family of Silla. There are also some Korean researchers that point out that the grave goods of Silla and of the eastern Xiongnu are alike,[21][19][20][22][23] and some researchers insist that the Silla king is descended from Xiongnu.[24][25][21][19][26][20] It's more likely that the ruling families were just native Koreanic speakers as the linguistic situation at that time suggests."

    It's coping Korean propaganda to suggest that a Koreanic clan traveled from the far southeastern corner of Korea, all the way into the Steppe, then traveled all the way back down into the far southeast of Korea.

    Rather, the clan that went on to lead Silla, then all of Korea, was from the Xiongnu -- and since nobody spoke Koreanic back then and over there, the future Korean clan spoke some Altaic language instead. At some time, for some reason, this clan left the Xiongnu confederation, migrated into Korea, and settled in the far southeast.

    If they were the only such group to make this migration, then they simply switched languages when they settled into Silla -- adopting Koreanic rather than Para-Mongolic or whatever they used to speak.

    If they were part of a larger migration, then a whole bunch of Turkic or Para-Mongolic or Tungusic speakers entered Korea, where their Altaic language was the prestigious elite language. But since there were already lots of speakers of other languages, these other languages acted as a filter through which the Altaic one was put -- and on the other side of that synthesis, came Koreanic.

    Just like what I'm saying for an Altaic language being put through the filter of Emishi-an langauges, and the result is Japonic.

    Well, in Southern Korea at that time, there were Japonic speakers -- and possibly some Emishi-an speakers as well. Both of those families show traces in Southern Korea, near Japan.

    Either way, the Steppe people who arrived in Southern Korea *after* the Wa, had to absorb the Wa into their new language. And the Wa in turn had to absorb the Emishi -- so the Steppe Koreans had to absorb the Emishi-an language *indirectly*, via absorbing the Wa who remained in Southern Korea rather than taking the leap of faith into the Japanese islands.

    This is why Koreanic and Japonic languages are similar. Both are Altaic languages put through a filter that included Emishi-an (Japonic directly, Koreanic indirectly, via absorbing Japonic speakers). Koreanic also had to absorb other speakers, e.g. Amuric and whoever else came in through the Northern Korean mega-states like Goguryeo and Balhae. Japonic did not have to absorb those speakers, so it's somewhat different.

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  67. That clan, BTW, is the Gyeongju Kim clan (one of many bearing the name Kim). From Wiki:

    "The Gyeongju Kims (경주김씨; 慶州金氏)[12] trace their descent from the ruling family of Silla. The founder of this clan is said to have been Kim Al-chi, an orphan adopted by King Talhae of Silla in the 1st century CE. Alji's seventh-generation descendant was the first member of the clan to take the throne, as King Michu of Silla in the year 262."

    Their legendary founder's given name, Al-chi, is a perfect match for the Turkic term for "piebald horse" as represented by the Alat tribe, some of whose variants are Alchi and Alchin:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alat_tribe

    "Kim" means "gold" in Korean, and the legend says he was discovered in a golden box as an infant. So that doesn't sound like a longstanding clan name -- it's either his personal name, or an epithet.

    "Alchi" is the unexplained name in the legend. But it attested at that time as the ruling clan of the Xiongnu, not just any ol' member of the confederation. So whoever came up with this legend, knew the name of the ruling clan of the Xiongnu, and gave it to this legendary figure -- as well as the new epithet meaning "gold".

    Piebald horse clan scores again!

    And you people thought I was crazy...

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  68. Perhaps this explains why the Japanese are more guarded or cryptic about their Steppe origins, and specifically the Xiongnu. They were not just in a vague competition against Silla, they were literally at war with them during the Goguryeo-Tang War during the 7th C.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goguryeo%E2%80%93Tang_War

    Korea was not unified, but split into the Three Kingdoms -- Goguryeo in the north, Baekje in the SW, and Silla in the SE.

    Goguryeo was at war with the Tang Empire in China. Baekje sided with Goguryeo.

    Silla, though, was more concerned with outmaneuvering the other Korean kingdoms, that they didn't mind allying with the dirty invading foreigners from China.

    During the Battle of Baekgang, the Yamato state in Japan joined the war on the side of Baekje, against Silla. Baekje and Yamato lost, Tang and Silla won, and after that Japan would give up on invading Korea... for a little while, anyway. They'll always be back to give it another try -- and eventually, it worked!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baekgang

    But the creators of the Nihon Shoki and Kojiki, in the 8th C, didn't know that eventually Japan would make not just Silla but all of Korea their bitch. At the time, they had to make it seem like they didn't really care that much about Korea (sour grapes), and that they had little connection with Korea, although they couldn't say something ridiculous like "we have no connection whatsoever".

    So, if the Japanese just came right out and said, "Some of our powerful clans, including the ruling clan, used to belong to the Xiongnu confederation -- the OG badass nomadic Steppe empire -- so show us some respect!" ...

    Then they would sound exactly like the Silla royal clan.

    And the last thing that the Yamato clan's origin myth could resemble was the Silla clan's origin myth. So they had to be a little more cryptic and vague about it. But there are still traces of it. Susanoo, after being kicked out of Heaven, makes his first earthly descent in Silla, but doesn't like it, and sets off for Glorious Nippon instead.

    "A variant account in the Shoki relates that after Susanoo was banished due to his bad behavior, he descended from heaven, accompanied by a son named Isotakeru-no-Mikoto (五十猛命), to a place called 'Soshimori' (曽尸茂梨) in the land of Shiragi (the Korean kingdom of Silla) before going to Izumo. Disliking the place, they crossed the sea in a boat made of clay until they arrived at Torikami Peak (鳥上之峯, Torikami no mine) by the upper waters of the river Hi in Izumo."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo-no-Mikoto

    And to reiterate, the Japanese name for Xiongnu is a very strange one -- Japanese has very few names for foreign places, other than China and Korea. But it does have a special name for the Xiongnu. And unlike every other language's rendition of the Xiongnu's name, which is something like "hon-na", the Japanese name lacks a nasal consonant, it inserts a stop ("d"), and the initial consonant is a palatalized velar stop ("ky"), rather than the simple "h" that many other languages use instead, like Chinese.

    It's "Kyoudo", and this is a homonym with "hometown, birthplace, etc."

    This is a very roundabout way of claiming descent from the Xiongnu confederation -- and it has to be roundabout and cryptic cuz the Silla royal clan has already made the direct and unambiguous claim that they came from the Xiongnu royalty.

    Honoring their Xiongnu origins, while distancing themselves from their enemy Silla -- not an easy needle to thread, but they pulled it off. It just makes it a lot harder to figure out their origins, compared to the Kim clan that united Silla and then Korea, who say so openly.

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  69. I'll bet a lot of you thought I was just meme-ing with Glorious Nippon originating among the Xiongnu, everybody knows the Xiongnu never got outside of Steppe, none of their members ever wandered anywhere else, certainly no other state or kingdom ever claimed descent from the Xiongnu...

    Like the Huns? They sure did. But they were from the Steppe, so maybe that's just one Steppe group honoring another.

    And like the Mongols? They sure claimed descent from the Xiongnu -- but they, too, are from the Steppe, so maybe that's just one Steppe group honoring another.

    Certainly no one *outside* the Steppe itself, would claim descent from the Xiongnu.... r-right, guys?

    And then, BOOM, the very clan that united Korea comes right out and says it: Yep, we're from the Xiongnu, specifically their ruling clan, and specifically the prince who the Chinese call Jin Midi. And our royal clan's legendary founder, Al-chi, has a name that means "piebald horse" in Turkic, and is the name of the ruling clan of the Xiongnu. How much more clear can we make our message?

    For the sad deluded doubters out there -- just remember who to trust. The cliff-dwelling sage in the ruins of the blogosphere, not your fellow shitposters on social media, or the slightly more middlebrow version from the collapsing Western academia.

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  70. We'll get to the Japanese archaeological resemblance to the Xiongnu soon, I just wanted to do a little pre-victory victory lap after happening upon the Korean version of what I'm saying.

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  71. As a Japanophile, I hate having to give credit to Korea, especially South Korea, which is now a woketard wasteland.

    But this is not a slopaganda account, I discover and disseminate the elusive truths of the universe, whether I like them or not.

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  72. BTW, I'm not sure if the Korean scholars have noticed that Al-chi is a perfect match for one form of the Alat tribe's name. There are apparently several people pursuing the Xiongnu origins of Silla, in Korean. But the only mention on Wikipedia is the suggestion that "altin" has to do with "gold".

    So I may be the first to connect the Al-chi name with a variant of the Alat tribe's name. Seems like if the Korean scholars had already noticed this, it would be mentioned in the Wikipedia article citing them.

    But whether I'm the first or not, doesn't matter. I figured it out, and so could anyone else with an open mind, good intuition, and relevant knowledge.

    ...None of which you'll find on social media, and that's why you're still making the trek up the Cliffs of Wisdom.

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  73. That really is social media -- close-minded, ass-backwards views, propped up by irrelevant factoids.

    I will never abandon my post here, though... well, except to take a break and watch some Holo JP vtubers.

    And the occasional anime! I found one about Queen Pimiko / Himiko, titled Himiko-den in Nihongo, Legend of Himiko in English.

    It's the only series or movie about her, and it's from 1999, paired with a video game for the PlayStation.

    The reviews say it's nothing special, and maybe that's true, but it's interesting enough. I can't get enough of hand-drawn illustration, and love the saturated watercolor backgrounds, and exotic Ancient Japanese setting.

    It's not a literal re-telling of her story -- there's hardly anything known about her. It's an isekai (where someone is magically transported to a different time and/or place), before that genre became over-done. Two teens from present-day Tokyo are transported back into 2nd-century Japan, when Yamatai is still not united or expanding. The girl is Himiko, who was from that ancient time and place, but transported to the future when Yamatai came under attack. Without knowing her ultimate origin, she is now transported back to where she came from to pursue her destiny...

    But they really don't do much with her character, she's just an annoying stubborn bratty teen girl, not a heroine. And they don't really explore the tension between her not knowing her real parents, now finding herself where she's originally from but not knowing it, and so on.

    It's less about her, the future uniter of Yamatai, and more about the battle between Yamatai and their rival, Kune.

    Her guy friend is more of a protagonist / unlikely hero, though he's still fairly annoying and "ZOMG, what am I doing here????" after 8 episodes out of 12.

    It's decent, worth a watch just for being historically set, for being from the '90s / y2k golden age of anime (although this isn't its peak example), and for it's dark and saturated color and lighting aesthetic.

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  74. Has Irys watched Doraemon? She was recently bragging about having watched the most anime by far in Holo EN, and even being in the top 3 among Holo JP.

    But I've never heard her refer to Doraemon -- one of the most widely popular anime series and endless franchise of movies in Japan.

    The Holo JP girls refer to Doraemon all the time. Just the other day, during Marine & Pekora's daily exercise stream, Vivi's model was too small to reach the table. Without missing a beat, Pekora said she just needs BIGGU RAITO!

    I only started watching Doraemon movies this year, but I know what that meant! She didn't have to say, "BTW, this is a Doraemon reference" -- the audience already knows. It's like saying, "Go-go Gadget skates!" to an American Gen X audience. You wouldn't need to say, "BTW, this is an Inspector Gadget reference."

    And somebody else was casually mentioning Shizuka-chan, although I don't remember who or when. I just remember hearing her name in a recent stream.

    But Doraemon has almost no visibility outside of Japan, except for some places in East Asia. Not America, though. He's totally unknown here. Very strange.

    So I wonder if Irys, being raised in America, also missed out on the iconic Doraemon series? I've heard her refer to the big series that were popular here, like Dragonball, Naruto, Pokemon, and others... but never the blue robot-cat with his bottomless wonder-pocket of eccentric gadgets!

    Does the Japanese government put that on its citizenship test? You want to join our country, you have to be able to do an impression of at least one character from Doraemon. And if you ask, "What's Doraemon?" -- your application is rejected! ^_^

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  75. Turbo-weebs like Fuwamoco know Doraemon -- they sang its original theme song during an anime-themed karaoke.

    But I don't think Irys has sung that iconic theme song, or the later theme song from the 2000s ("Yume wo Kanaete Doraemon"), which many Holo JP girls have sung.

    She's sung "Sanpo" from My Neighbor Totoro several times, and the original Doraemon theme song is similar, very upbeat and genki and like a march, but for kids. It would be right up her alley.

    And if she hasn't seen Doraemon before, due to being raised in America where it is totally unknown, there's no time like the present!

    If the Japanese government finds out she hasn't seen Doraemon, they just might revoke her citizenship. ^_^

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