tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post9111132168019589084..comments2024-03-18T17:20:21.775-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Jews less forgiving than Christians and even non-religious peopleagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-20908556837956183062014-08-25T23:28:01.590-04:002014-08-25T23:28:01.590-04:00Iran was conquered by muslims in 651. This was als...Iran was conquered by muslims in 651. This was also the last time anything bad happened to Jews at the hand of gentiles.<br /><br />The Jews should realize they are not welcome in Europe, but zionism is an unacceptable response. Jews should leave European civilization but not actually go somewhere. <br /><br />In 1964 the Christians finally forgave the Jews for murdering their god. Would the Jews have done that? Forgive someone's descendants after 1900 years for something their ancestors did? I think not. The Jews really have a lot to learn from christians!<br /><br />Too bad they don't take advice. This entire post was a gem. <br /><br />completely autisticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-11659682480126457552014-08-23T17:59:33.056-04:002014-08-23T17:59:33.056-04:00"Maybe that also might explain parts of their..."Maybe that also might explain parts of their supposed social tolerance - they have to get various things removed from the amoral class of activity or would spend their lives irritated, more than through actually being tolerant (i.e. forgiving) of social quirks."<br /><br />No, their social tolerance is purely situational. Whenever they comprise a minority they will promote tolerance. Once they achieve majority status - even at the level of individual towns and neighborhoods (orthodox eruvin) they drop all pretense of tolerance.Cahokianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-49650601969035750742014-08-23T15:19:19.752-04:002014-08-23T15:19:19.752-04:00Maybe they believe more in making restitution, sin...Maybe they believe more in making restitution, since Judaism is supposedly a religion of works, not faith. Depends on how they're looking at forgiveness. Seems like time has to be more of a healer in that religion.<br /><br />Maybe that also might explain parts of their supposed social tolerance - they have to get various things removed from the amoral class of activity or would spend their lives irritated, more than through actually being tolerant (i.e. forgiving) of social quirks.<br /><br />There are some manager personality data out there, do seem predictive of Jewish stereotypes - <br /><br />http://www.intestcom.org/Downloads/ITC2006Brussels/Session%203.1.2Fleck%20&%20Brown.pdf - more persuasive, more controlling, less independent minded, less conventional, less rule following, more innovative, more achievement oriented, more decisive, more trusting, less relaxed, less anxious.<br /><br />I guess European Jews have a three layer model to their personality: their hot blooded East Mediterranean ancestors, the generalities of their European managerial niche, finally the specific circumstances of their European adaptation niche, which might select for a more worry prone sort of manager than is normal.<br /><br />On whether Jewish personality (if true) could bring down a society of only Ashkenazis, 1SD of IQ seems a pretty big advantage - I'm not sure 1SD lower forgiveness traits would bring that down.<br /><br />East Asians seem like another low forgiveness culture, in their case balanced by high humility and self monitoring preventing offences in the first place (so it actually works), but then you have to commit seppuku or whatever if you do fuck up. Traditionally Muslim societies generally seem to be a sort of toxic low forgiveness, low humility - culture of honor and payback. But their societies don't actually work, so...Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-10365889283859686482014-08-23T14:25:50.047-04:002014-08-23T14:25:50.047-04:00I guess that high neuroticism correlates with bein...I guess that high neuroticism correlates with being object-oriented. Neuroticism is probably also correlated with being abstract and lacking instincts - neurotics always get upset because they can't accurately read the situation.<br /><br />I'm not sure if its true about all Jews being neurotic, I'm descended from Jews on my paternal line(father's father going back), so I feel I should stick up for them a little bit.Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-41559629916073029592014-08-23T12:00:20.079-04:002014-08-23T12:00:20.079-04:00Their unforgiving attitude explains why they'r...Their unforgiving attitude explains why they're the only ethnic group which is honored with it's own unique form of racism. Among the politically correct and incorrect alike, being judged an anti-semite is a lower form of depravity than receiving the tired accusation of racist.<br /><br />The existence of a market dominant and unforgiving minority among a much more forgiving populous is a formula for exploitation - something like a battered nation syndrome. <br />Cahokianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-12263545857088628262014-08-22T17:12:51.741-04:002014-08-22T17:12:51.741-04:00"Never forgive, never forget" is proverb..."Never forgive, never forget" is proverbial among Jews.Axe Headnoreply@blogger.com