tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post9028254907510867432..comments2024-03-28T21:56:51.675-04:00Comments on Face to Face: The rise and fall of heroin deaths over timeagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-35999051408483152872014-02-07T15:50:27.951-05:002014-02-07T15:50:27.951-05:00Cocaine was very much the drug of choice during th...Cocaine was very much the drug of choice during the 1980's. The crack cocaine epidemic in the inner city neighborhoods was the most obvious case. Starting in the late 1970's (remember "White Lines" by Grandmaster Flash?), it quickly exploded to the point where there were some neighborhoods the police was afraid to go into. But by the mid-1990's, it was on the decline and while it remains a problem, it's now remembered in historical terms by those who were affected by it.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-52628923667527887232014-02-07T08:41:13.654-05:002014-02-07T08:41:13.654-05:00for Hoffman the relevance to your theory concerns ...for Hoffman the relevance to your theory concerns the fact that he began taking drugs and first became addicted during the 1980's, a high crime era when people were less risk averse.<br /><br />Often drugs do not result in death for many years. A friend I grew up with in the 80's recently relapsed and was found dead of a Heroin overdose last May. He was 41 years old. In the 1990's he became addicted to Oxycontin , he started doing heroin because it was so much cheaper. I had no idea he was a Heroin user until he died, but knew he had gone to rehab for oxy about ten years ago.jovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17255734827055994617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-4860349421367397402014-02-06T17:42:29.006-05:002014-02-06T17:42:29.006-05:00Cocaine deaths in the Wikipedia list show the same...Cocaine deaths in the Wikipedia list show the same peak in the early 2000s. They start with a few in the late '70s, rise sharply until the early 2000s, then fall dramatically.<br /><br />Current cocaine use peaks in 2001 among the YRBS high schoolers. I think our image of the cocaine-fueled Eighties is due more to its social / party usage, rather than the loner listening to Limp Bizkit circa 2000.<br /><br />"Hoffman had been a drug addict in the 80s."<br /><br />I don't see the relevance, other than the fact that you can relapse once you've been hooked before.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-53797405427605776752014-02-06T17:25:25.597-05:002014-02-06T17:25:25.597-05:00Hoffman had been a drug addict in the 80s. He rel...Hoffman had been a drug addict in the 80s. He relapsed into drug addiction. Do you think that's relevant? asnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-9405628658720256562014-02-06T17:22:55.841-05:002014-02-06T17:22:55.841-05:00England's homicide rate peaked in '94 or &...England's homicide rate peaked in '94 or '95, not too long after America's. I think it got started at the same time too, ~1960.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-74885358012467409972014-02-06T16:42:58.821-05:002014-02-06T16:42:58.821-05:00It would be interesting to plot cocaine use alongs...It would be interesting to plot cocaine use alongside - my intuition is that they would be on different cycles, with coke more closely following the crime rate, but I don't know. <br /><br />i learned from Toby Young's memoir "How to lose Friends and Alienate People" that there was a Cocaine boom in England in the 90s, about 10 years after it peaked in the US. How is the crime rate in England as compared to the US?JImbarinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-31372420198284922152014-02-06T16:33:10.724-05:002014-02-06T16:33:10.724-05:00The spread of drugs is, afterall, a social occuren...The spread of drugs is, afterall, a social occurence.<br /><br />I don't think that it has to do with being abused, though its an interesting idea. The millenials self-medicate themselves pretty intensely, despite living in safe, non-violent times. They don't have the social connections to do hard drugs.Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-37642017643650656432014-02-06T15:55:30.454-05:002014-02-06T15:55:30.454-05:00The only other thing I can think of is that the fi...The only other thing I can think of is that the first wave of prisoners arrested during the beginning of a crime wave, get introduced to drugs and/or form connections, and are all released 5-10 years later. I remember seeing a documentary or movie somewhere that drug dealers often make all kinds of connections in jail. It might be worth looking at what the average jail term is, to see if its 5-10 years.<br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-37837120286294280162014-02-06T14:57:52.473-05:002014-02-06T14:57:52.473-05:00Youth Risk Behavior Survey data starts in 1991 Mon...Youth Risk Behavior Survey data starts in 1991 <a href="http://www.monitoringthefuture.org//pubs/monographs/mtf-overview2013.pdf" rel="nofollow">Monitoring the Future</a> goes bak further and shows a peak about a v shaped decline with trough in 1991 a lower leak about 2000 then a decline.TDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-15556221388632533822014-02-06T14:09:16.521-05:002014-02-06T14:09:16.521-05:00Drug use falls easily into "risky behavior&qu...Drug use falls easily into "risky behavior" on the demand side (users), in often in a social setting. And the supply side is clearly linked to crime and violence. The rising and falling phases largely overlap, and the cycles are the same length between peaks.<br /><br />The only odd thing is that the drug cycle is the crime/cocooning cycle delayed by 5 to 10 years.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-58070566112880067862014-02-06T13:56:38.812-05:002014-02-06T13:56:38.812-05:00I'm not sure if drug use is being effected by ...I'm not sure if drug use is being effected by the crime rate. It coudl ust be a separate cycle, like the equality-inequality one.<br /><br /><br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-17810234885088937112014-02-06T13:33:34.441-05:002014-02-06T13:33:34.441-05:00The early 1970's featured a lot of heroin use ...The early 1970's featured a lot of heroin use which was reflected in the popular culture. Movies like "Jennifer On My Mind" and "Panic In Needle Park" were among the better-known such films.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com