tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post9002498806297997407..comments2024-03-27T23:28:20.274-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Russiagate was Know-Nothing-ism: Status quo opposition delayed realignment by blaming foreign influence for dominant party's stunning victoryagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-33721055452344604712019-04-19T02:00:39.858-04:002019-04-19T02:00:39.858-04:00Our civil breakdown will be more Crisis of the 3rd...Our civil breakdown will be more Crisis of the 3rd C. than a Team A vs. Team B style war. That was after Rome's peak as an expanding empire, and they had no growing threat against themselves to keep them unified to some degree -- *they themselves* were the growing threat to others, forcing those others to unify (like the Germanics).<br /><br />The Team A vs. Team B was during their rise to imperial power, when their national solidarity was increasing rather than decreasing. Team Caesar vs. Team Pompey, rather than everyone at each other's throats. The encroachment by the Celtic empire forced Roman unity, so that even their civil war had a highly unified structure of two cohesive teams.<br /><br />You're right that we're too disunited, but that's been going on since our peak in WWII. We had increasing "asabiya" up until then, and declining since. The first Civil War was during that long rise of national cohesion, and it was about making sure the South did not break away, and would remain on the North's terms.<br /><br />But today we won't even see a Balkanization, where one region would just tolerate other regions seceding. That will take quite awhile, like the formation of different nations after the Roman Empire broke up. They had to go through a period of anarchy and breakdown at the imperial level.<br /><br />We'll have a nation that dissolves internally, but still has a (weak) national government. After a prolonged period of weak federal rule, that could encourage regions to consider formally breaking off. They have to see proof that the scale of the US fed gov is too large, now that we're no longer capable of maintaining a global empire.<br /><br />In the meantime, yeah, it'll be more like everyone being at each other's throats, since we have no mighty enemy to force us into cohesion -- the Indians, the Soviets, etc.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-30471629350636954592019-04-18T23:22:57.562-04:002019-04-18T23:22:57.562-04:00I tried to post this before but the comment disapp...I tried to post this before but the comment disappeared.<br /><br />I wonder if this inequality peak isn't more similar to the one prior to the Civil War, namely the Salem Witch Trial period. Either society is too disorganized to have a full civil war or recent conflict King Philip's war then Iraq/War on Terror now has sapped our disire for conflict and we just have a bunch of witch hunts.DLMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2950988661597197762019-03-29T21:06:29.636-04:002019-03-29T21:06:29.636-04:00Why do they hate Tulsi so much? She was the sole,...Why do they hate Tulsi so much? She was the sole, rational Dem voice that saw through Russiagate; the people who hate her most perpetuated it. Yet, I don't sense that it was Tulsi's Natsec views that cause this profound dislike, nor could it be because of populism.<br />Maybe I'm naive and the Natsec views really are that verbotten. I'll be voting for her, but she still hasn't met the debate threshold, in fact, the most recent update from her on this inspired this...why isn't she more popular?Anin813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-85617052865023144432019-03-26T20:40:53.176-04:002019-03-26T20:40:53.176-04:00Mueller is a survivor and would have backed impeac...Mueller is a survivor and would have backed impeachment if there was enough, even flimsy evidence. As there wasn't any and President Trump hinted fairly strongly he'd request militia and/or military help if it was in false grounds it behoved him to stay out of it <br /><br />Juntas are funny things as they can easily go very very bad and end up in civil war or with the plotters facing a firing squad. <br /><br />Now I do like your analogy though unlike the Russiagate people, the original know nothings were in fact correct.<br /><br /> Entry into the US should have been limited to White English speaking protestants of good character in order to maintain a more stable society over the long haul<br /><br />And I say this as a person who family line includes Catholics <br /><br />The mass entry of other groups, mainly for cheap labor in the North East was as destructive as the current migration wave. <br /><br />Of course the US is addicted to cheap labor and a such, will get that cheap labor at the cost of being a first tier society <br />and at the cost of continuous below replacement fertility <br /><br />We've had fifty years of that at at current rates, we'll be handing over the remains to the Amish is a couple of centuries <br /><br />This obviously is somewhat spurious but when every single group is low fertility and all you have less are carpetbaggers , low trust people and low IQ sorts and even those aren't reproducing you don't have a long term strategy, you have an end game . <br /><br />As for President Trump, thus far he's governed in a pretty orthodox manner not as a populist per se, He's Clinton circa 1993 or so with Federalist society judges <br /><br />This is what I expected though and considering the basically scoliosis of the US political system and the broad TINVOWOOT ethos that afflicts all sides, its pretty darned good <br />AB.Prospernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-73517700724873560772019-03-26T11:46:40.578-04:002019-03-26T11:46:40.578-04:00It's looking like the Mueller report will say ...It's looking like the Mueller report will say Russia hacked the DNC with catastrophic results for Clinton thus preserving some power for the status quo; I guess this means Julian Assange will have to rot some more. Conclusion has been forgone for a long time, an interesting side question is why did the MSM believe Mueller was on their side vis a vis deposing Trump? Just curious.<br /><br />Other than that, the Bernie journalists had a great conclusion. They were smart enough back in 2016/2017 to believe that this was nonsense and wise enough to see there was some malevolence, too, and bite their tongues on the stuff that was verboten to be in public: they look like geniuses now.Anon813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-74781168803738013792019-03-26T08:51:42.010-04:002019-03-26T08:51:42.010-04:00Do you suppose there is an underlying cycle of kno...Do you suppose there is an underlying cycle of know-nothingism?mobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582872757769683429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-86402895704857263722019-03-26T08:49:38.356-04:002019-03-26T08:49:38.356-04:00That leaves Trump in a pickle. Should he indict de...That leaves Trump in a pickle. Should he indict dem before or after the election?mobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582872757769683429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-46456917791337535732019-03-26T07:37:26.111-04:002019-03-26T07:37:26.111-04:00Really interestig piece, thank you.Really interestig piece, thank you.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08415890180181349460noreply@blogger.com