tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post8610128324040512056..comments2024-03-18T17:20:21.775-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Female bonding movies absent during violent times, surge during safe timesagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-5064530747637314602011-02-18T04:58:14.337-05:002011-02-18T04:58:14.337-05:00Hmmmm, interesting. I'm a female and I still h...Hmmmm, interesting. I'm a female and I still hate chick flicks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-38926509152014376612011-02-15T06:21:57.874-05:002011-02-15T06:21:57.874-05:00You've got only one peak. This could have been...You've got only one peak. This could have been one fad that came and went. What you say sounds sensible, but in order to get any real data, I would try to figure out a keyword you can search imdb with so you can go back before 1980.<br /><br />Heck, ask Steve. He's into movies, he's old enough to have an idea, and he likes your blog. ;)SFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-376551237454420812011-02-13T00:09:40.263-05:002011-02-13T00:09:40.263-05:00"Sweet Valley High was supposed to be a littl..."Sweet Valley High was supposed to be a little racier than Babysitters"<br /><br />Oh, this still holds true today, I can ask women in their late 20's if they read Babysitters or Sweet Valley High, and invariable the sluttier girls were into Sweet Valley and the Good Girls were Babysitters Club readers... without fail!gymquiznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-50598723437812960972011-02-11T14:05:04.467-05:002011-02-11T14:05:04.467-05:00I think you've covered this ground before but,...I think you've covered this ground before but, as a comparison, look at the the "best guy movies". As the number of chick flicks/bonding movies rise, movies men revere decline. A quick search found these:<br /><br />http://www.filmsite.org/maxim100.html<br />http://www.filmsite.org/guyfilms.html<br /><br />For the sake of this specific argument, I would throw out movies women enjoy as well, such as "The Usual Suspects", "Office Space", and "Dumb & Dumber". Then the list gets even more bleak past 1990.<br /><br />Recently, I've asked myself two things: 1. What movies do young males revere (anyone 25ish and below) and 2. am I just getting too old to appreciate their tastes? To answer 1, I have primarily my association with gamers to go off of. My direct peers and I will spout lines like "Get to the choppa!", "Kahn!!", and similar, and then revert into a actor/character quote association just about anytime we play. We're often in the minority, age-wise, when playing games online, yet there are no alternative quotes being offered up by he younger players. Interestingly, our Arnold and gangster movie rap, "Say hello to my little friend!", is picked up by the youth, either because they do know what we're referring to or they want to know. It's not uncommon for us old guys to plant the Netflix research seed and have a young player come back fresh off of a "Full Metal Jacket" or "Predator" viewing.<br /><br />For #2, maybe I am getting old, but, despite my enjoyment of comic hero movies and a few action movies like the Bourne and Bond series, they're not offering dominating performances, one-liners, and overall remembrance (epic movies like Gladiator, Braveheart, and LOTR series aside). I don't think there are movies and characters for young males to rally behind, and it shows. When I casually poll them as to what movies they really love, I usually get back the "Doofus Comedy" list, not action movies.Camel Feethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16710755600126093475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-47876878564542975152011-02-11T09:15:02.638-05:002011-02-11T09:15:02.638-05:00Just had a thought about a potential gold mine of ...Just had a thought about a potential gold mine of data for you: book series aimed at tweener (6th to 8th grade) girls.<br /><br />Specifically, Babysitters' Club (1986 -2000; 176 million copies sold) and Sweet Valley High (1983 - 2003; 250 million copies sold).<br /><br />Because they span the rising/falling crime divide, looking at how they changed would be interesting. When I was in 6th to 8th grade (1989 to 1992), I don't think there was a single girl in my class who didn't read these religiously. <br /><br />The only thing I remember about them is that Sweet Valley High was supposed to be a little racier than Babysitters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-38599214312264949982011-02-11T09:02:15.009-05:002011-02-11T09:02:15.009-05:00That list isn't so good since it includes a lo...That list isn't so good since it includes a lot of foreign films, low budget indie movies, and some that just plain don't fit, e.g. Miss Congeniality.<br /><br />As a whole the genre isn't a huge moneymaker. My guess is that's because they are usually aimed at middle-aged women, not a broad target audience.<br /><br />Here are the three early ones (89-91) that had the biggest buzz at the time:<br /> <br />Steel Magnolias (1988) - $83 million; 1 Oscar Nom.<br /><br />Fried Green Tomatoes (1991) - $119 million; 2 Oscar noms.<br /><br />Thelma & Louise (1991) - $45 million; 1 Oscar win (best original screenplay), 5 noms. (2 for best actress)<br /><br />Honestly I'm not sure what conclusions to draw. The first two are about younger (Southern) women who learn how women in their mother's generation relied on each other through adversity.<br /><br />I'm shocked at how little money Thelma & Louise made given how much press it got. <br /><br />The biggest grossing one of all was The First Wives Club (1996) at $181 million. Definitely for middle-aged women.<br /><br />The only ones that really seemed aimed at millenials are the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants movies (2005; 2008). Not terribly popular, each made about $45 million. But then again they're based on really popular book series for tweener girls.<br /><br />Wait, did the Sex and the City movie really gross $415 million? The apocalypse is surely nigh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com