tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post4433080042913185182..comments2024-03-28T21:56:51.675-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Poll shifts after "events" are illusoryagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-27795005279956227172016-10-06T16:47:21.342-04:002016-10-06T16:47:21.342-04:00Worst case scenario, Team Clinton is gonna pull a ...Worst case scenario, Team Clinton is gonna pull a massive heist before/on election day since so many non California/non New York states are trending towards Trump. There's going to be at least some point shaving (I saw an article on Nat. Review by John Fund, in which he talked about Democratic machines getting caught covering up illegal voting and dragging their feet on voter ID measures if such measures exist in the first place). It won't be enough to tip too many states (maybe none at all) since so many are voting Trump.<br /><br />Didn't Trump make veiled references to Kaine being weird/awkward/creepy? His team wasn't born yesterday; they know what secrets their opponents have and they need to send a message about it. Like when they pulled the rent boy stunt to spook Rubio. Team Clinton is so faggy that it shouldn't be hard to keep them in line as voting gets under way.<br /><br />Certainly, most pollsters are bending over backwards right now to cover up Trump's momentum, lest anti-Trumpers be further demoralized to the point that they quietly accept the inevitable and October becomes a victory lap for Trump.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/783832805528645632<br /><br />Trump is doing gangbusters with less educated whites. 11 points higher than the previous high mark in 2008. Does the stupid party realize yet what gains they can make when they're not bible bashing and enabling cronyism and neo-liberal rape? Note the discrepancy between yuppies and lunch pail toters in the '12 election. Who wanted to vote for corporate raider Romney anyway? As for "recent" elections, it's hard to say who was a worse choice: negro criminal loving Dukakis (in the late 1980's when America was at it's most culturally conservative point since the mid 1950's) or slick vampire Romney after the '08 crash.Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-55689305581907182152016-10-06T14:49:19.948-04:002016-10-06T14:49:19.948-04:00Arizona for Clinton? LOL. Emerson's poll switc...Arizona for Clinton? LOL. Emerson's poll switched who was for Obama and Romney.<br /><br />Their topline results say the sample is 45% Obama voters, 54% Romney voters -- in line with the results from 2012.<br /><br />However in their cross-tabs, they have 54% Obama voters, and 45% Romney voters!<br /><br />If you weight Trump's and Clinton's support levels among Obama and Romney voters by their *actual* frequency, it's Trump +10 (48 to 38).<br /><br />The only question is whether this was an accident -- hard to believe -- or a deliberate move to give Clinton a prima facie good result, since she's getting killed in their polls overall.<br /><br />I favor the latter, since Emerson also biased the hell out of their Michigan poll, suggesting that 44% of the voters will be age 75 or older, rather than around 10% in reality. That put Clinton up, when a true weighting of their results by age put Trump up 7.<br /><br />Emerson is pretty good overall, but if there's a fishy result, they have heavily put their thumb on the scale -- and in both cases, favoring Crooked Hillary.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-81496337733739901172016-10-05T22:26:02.813-04:002016-10-05T22:26:02.813-04:00I don't know, agnostic. I don't really car...I don't know, agnostic. I don't really care for Pence but I think he demonstrated that he could be the next nominee if he really wanted to.Derrick Bonsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10624976943924251694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-42253889341343485972016-10-05T22:18:17.144-04:002016-10-05T22:18:17.144-04:00We've got manifest destiny type non-sense, cha...We've got manifest destiny type non-sense, characteristic of a decadent adventurist culture, that won't let many elites go. These elites aren't happy being American or concerning themselves with what ordinary Americans really want and need. No, they'd rather try and export American "interests" (aka striving and money opportunities for the elite) abroad.<br /><br />Russia behaving in a manner that's consistent with sensible security practices (no, they didn't invade Georgia without provocation, rather they reacted to Georgian aggression) and regional integrity (Crimea is quite culturally Russian and has been historically allied with Russia to the benefit of both) is no reason for America's insecurely swaggering elites and pathetic courtiers to be picking fights.<br /><br />Entitlement. Pence has drank the Kool-Aid that the US is obligated to push around countries and rulers who are sincerely nationalistic. Why? Because we're "better" and we've "earned" this "right". At least the elite thinks so. The fervor also pushes the idea that the US has a moral obligation to essentially convert everyone to at least a quasi neo liberal capitalist democracy. Guess what, ya fools? Russians don't want "freedom" like Westerners do. Cuz they ain't Westerners.<br /><br />Non Westerners can't fake it 'til they make it. We end up with a globalist/crony system in which a few people reap benefits from corruption/exploitation. Even the West itself can't do things as well as it once did. How could it when those who are supposed to lead aren't fighting for the right things anymore, when they're fighting over the spoils of adventure and polishing treasure instead of listening to their subjects?Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-29674458641314488142016-10-05T14:03:26.626-04:002016-10-05T14:03:26.626-04:00"I thought he did a much better job of suppor..."I thought he did a much better job of supporting Trump's positions than Trump himself did, although the war on Russia crap went too far"<br /><br />That's why we can't let the performance and spectacle aspect of campaigning take over. Now people are more likely to say Pence was a better VP pick than Sessions, bc omfg Kaine btfo!<br /><br />Great, but should something happen to Trump, his replacement would intervene militarily in Syria, destabilize it, grow ISIS' base even more. On top of wanting to saber-rattle against Russia and possibly get us into nuclear WWIII.<br /><br />Nothing about some debate performance changes who was the best VP pick, nor what a realistic assessment of a Pence presidency would mean for important matters like war.<br /><br />Not to burst everyone's bubble, but that is what the VP is for -- serving as a back-up president, not debating clowns for a national audience.<br /><br />In fact, I'd like to see Trump switch VPs during re-election, to find someone a little younger and more closely aligned on the major issues including foreign policy. If there is going to be a third consecutive term, the candidate has to be the incumbent VP or other highly visible, accomplished, respected incumbent figure.<br /><br />Realistically, that is not Pence. And I don't think Pence was angling to be President in any case, just serving as Trump's running mate to help get him elected and regain control of the White House and Supreme Court for normal Americans.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-79885432045554705052016-10-05T09:43:20.932-04:002016-10-05T09:43:20.932-04:00Kaine gave an uber-creepy Peter Pan performance. S...Kaine gave an uber-creepy Peter Pan performance. Shameless and bratty. He reminds of this middle-aged faggy local reporter I've got in my neck of the woods. The body type, the ravaged face etc. But the reporter does have a more flaming voice than Kaine. I'm sure Kaine has gone to great lengths to de-fag his voice.<br /><br />Pence came off as wholesome, elegant, dignified, but not pretentious or uptight. I thought he did a much better job of supporting Trump's positions than Trump himself did, although the war on Russia crap went too far (Trump himself has no intention of provoking Russia cuz he thinks that all of Europe and the West needs to be united to stop the towel heads blowing crap up everywhere). <br /><br />Good work pointing out how immigration reduces wages, which Kaine did not respond to even though he interrupted and tried to discredit Pence on dozens of other statements. Of course, Kaine cited his Ellis Island heritage to try and appeal to foreigners and disgruntled blacks. Good luck with that Tim, seeing as how non-whites lump all white people together even the ones who have a "victim" heritage (like the Irish).<br /><br />Gotta go to work, more later....Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-32233730584309819282016-10-05T07:55:45.935-04:002016-10-05T07:55:45.935-04:00I don't expect this debate last night to move ...I don't expect this debate last night to move the needle much but Pence absolutely destroyed Kaine last night. Kaine seemed over-rehearsed, vomiting out endless diatribes about Trump. Pence seemed to smoothly sidestep them, refused to take the bait at any point, and disarmed Kaine in a casual manner. Kaine probably really thought those Apprentice lines were going to kill.<br /><br />Kaine is a machine hack where Pence was very supportive of Trump but seemed like his own man. Like I said, I don't think this will dramatically change results but it was a strong signal for remaining cuckservatives to find another excuse to go back to the GOP fold. "Heh heh, I wish Pence was running instead of Trump!" Who cares, just as long as they fill in the bubble for Trump/Pence when it comes time to vote. Gary Johnson and Egg McMuffin are dead ends as candidates. Time for the remaining tens of thousands of cuckservatives to come back to the GOP. Pence's debate performance helps grease the wheels on this shift.Random Dude on the Internetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-23382260526371254692016-10-05T03:16:58.850-04:002016-10-05T03:16:58.850-04:00He looks like a damn Dragonball Z villain.He looks like a damn Dragonball Z villain.Derrick Bonsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10624976943924251694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-57474829860057395912016-10-05T00:22:52.652-04:002016-10-05T00:22:52.652-04:00Here's a still image from GIS:
http://static2...Here's a still image from GIS:<br /><br />http://static2.politico.com/dims4/default/87f82bc/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F0d%2F42%2F2875a9944f71b6a71d8758254333%2F160622-tim-kaine-gty-1160.jpg<br /><br />And where are this pedo's lips? Did he pervertedly bite his own lips so often that they're worn away?<br /><br />Abomination.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-76650030546750856552016-10-05T00:16:56.795-04:002016-10-05T00:16:56.795-04:00Kaine's facial expression is worth studying si...Kaine's facial expression is worth studying since we've never seen a bona fide pedo faggot's mannerisms for minutes and hours on end.<br /><br />The main thing that makes him look creepy is how he raises his eyebrows and forehead, which usually means surprise -- but his eyelids are narrowed at the same time, where a normal surprised face also has raised eyelids and wide-open eyes.<br /><br />Narrowed eyes indicate sleepiness, drunkenness, and generally slipping out of conscious control.<br /><br />Kaine looks like he's trying to seduce the listener with his narrowed eyes, while also raises his eyebrows and forehead in a shocked surprise expression, like he's periodically blurting out his aroused state or something -- it's so discordant, looking both drowsy and startled at the same time.<br /><br />It is as jarring to look at as a fake smile, where only the mouth smiles but not the eyes. Normal people can tell that something is way off about his face because of the disconnected and contradictory movements.<br /><br />Why the surprised face for pedos? Well that is the go-to gay mannerism. But it's what adults resort to by instinct when they want to put a baby at ease when it's nervous. However, they also open their eyes wide, whereas Kaine keeps them narrowed -- trying to gain their trust with the raised eyebrows and forehead, while looking lecherously through his beady eyelids.<br /><br />What a sick disgusting freak to look at.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-81969543601576138102016-10-04T21:34:17.992-04:002016-10-04T21:34:17.992-04:00Wouldn't it be incredible if this shitty debat...Wouldn't it be incredible if this shitty debate shifts the race more than the first Presidential debate.Derrick Bonsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10624976943924251694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-90636084740291358822016-10-04T21:31:21.385-04:002016-10-04T21:31:21.385-04:00LOL, Trump just re-tweeted someone pointing out Cr...LOL, Trump just re-tweeted someone pointing out Creepy Kaine's pedo-face -- "looks like an evil crook out of the Batman movies".agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-24329390240148807452016-10-04T21:15:27.944-04:002016-10-04T21:15:27.944-04:00Tim Kaine is a spastic pedophile faggot (check boy...Tim Kaine is a spastic pedophile faggot (check boys school). Turning off this lame debate.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-87654794628258209412016-10-04T19:37:33.647-04:002016-10-04T19:37:33.647-04:00Thanks, Ag! Funny enough, I don't have cable ...Thanks, Ag! Funny enough, I don't have cable and very rarely watch tv: hearing this stuff, usually second hand, on twitter was enough to make me sad. In my case, not depressed, but specifically feel hurt.<br />I feel like I understand my twitter pals and relatives much better, though. My brother told me again today he was depressed, and channeling you, I told him he watched too much t.v.<br /><br />Going back quickly to the media figures dehumanizing Trump supporters, especially at rallies, it occurred to me today that it mostly seems to come from the women. You're much more intuned with the media, am I right? The most egregious was the horrifically exploitative article from the Washington Post that followed around a mentally ill woman to at both exploit her and dehumanize Trump supporters. I believe *every* single piece of journalism I've seen or read about Trump supporters has come from women now that I think about it.<br /><br />Hateful stuff. Dahlianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-24069573604169604732016-10-04T01:56:55.308-04:002016-10-04T01:56:55.308-04:00The best thing will be the commentary after Presid...The best thing will be the commentary after President Trump wins:<br /><br />-1/4 outright calling for Trump's murder<br />-1/4 admitting that they've scheduled therapy sessions/started using depression medication/been drinking/engaging in more risky behavior<br />-1/4 stating they are seriously looking at moving to another country (for reals, guys, I'm super-serial!)<br />-and 1/4 admitting that hey, ya, demographic replacement with a criminal, low-IQ class that steals jobs from Americans and commits crimes was probably an issue we should have taken seriously instead of screaming "racist" at you, so can you come back and read us here at National Review, please?<br /><br />Fucking maroons. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-13734302031429096022016-10-04T00:08:30.665-04:002016-10-04T00:08:30.665-04:00In the meantime, just don't pay any attention ...In the meantime, just don't pay any attention to the media, especially its mediocre "personalities".<br /><br />It seems like the people who get most depressed are those who tune into the media. That must have been a big part of the depressive fatalistic mindset of the conservative movement -- constantly dialed into the media, and having to get beaten up.<br /><br />I never watched cable news before last summer, watched intermittently after Super Tuesday, and stopped altogether after the primaries.<br /><br />I never followed any of the people on social media.<br /><br />Probably why I've been in a much more cheerful and optimistic mindset most of the season. Not by nature necessarily -- just from realism. Too much exposure to the media (more than 10 minutes a day, guessing) puts your worldview in the fantasy land constructed by the media.<br /><br />I don't know what else to say but stop watching and following them. They don't offer anything, so you won't be missing anything. Even breaking news, they're behind the curve with, compared to going on the internet.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2956529133114751322016-10-03T23:57:20.205-04:002016-10-03T23:57:20.205-04:00They're just insulated garbage for whom normal...They're just insulated garbage for whom normal people are The Other, pay them no more mind than you would Muslim immigrants talking about your neighbors.<br /><br />They are too invested in their personas as anti-normal, and will not change. What will change is the roster of anchors and reporters once Trump busts up the media monopoly -- the garbage will no longer have a lock on viewers, and will be mostly flushed down the sewers where they belong.<br /><br />The only place that will hire them is a niche channel that caters to shitlibs -- MSNBC, but on a much smaller scale to reflect how tiny and niche their hardcore audience actually is. (They imagine it is as large as anyone who voted Democrat last election.)<br /><br />At that point they will be marginalized enough that we won't have to listen to their mediocre bullshit anymore. We'll have Breitbart TV, the Drudge Network, Trump News, etc.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-81191168258181838782016-10-03T23:30:58.030-04:002016-10-03T23:30:58.030-04:00It makes me sad how these media people who follow ...It makes me sad how these media people who follow or have followed Trump at his rallies can still speak of his supporters as vermin or just not see their humanity at all.<br /><br />Katie Tue screeching about how scary they were. Getting high fives from her fellow journalists.<br /><br />On this, I truly do not understand. It hurts my feelings, frankly. These are my people they're talking about. Leave aside the few colorful ones, what about all the others? Why and how can good people lose their humanity in the eyes of these reporters? Do they lack soulfulness?<br /><br />Help me out here!Dahlianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-32463551074204334482016-10-03T21:10:44.474-04:002016-10-03T21:10:44.474-04:00Now that we're pretty sure Bill and Hillary ar...Now that we're pretty sure Bill and Hillary are not long for this world, we should start betting on who else is going to croak or commit suicide before or shortly after Trump's inauguration.<br /><br />These media people, the elites, anybody anti-Trump has aged 10 years in the past 10 months. Once their doom is actual rather than hypothetical, they could really enter a downward spiral.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-28977629676703694842016-10-03T21:06:08.100-04:002016-10-03T21:06:08.100-04:00They also know that Wikileaks is going to drop som...They also know that Wikileaks is going to drop some serious shit tomorrow, which will blow up on Wednesday. Proof that Hillary & her State Dept. knew who ISIS was, and that they were funneling / selling them major amounts of weaponry, vehicles, etc.?<br /><br />Whatever it is, it'll be part of the 30,000 deleted emails that Trump has been warning about for awhile.<br /><br />"Deleted and bleached them, and destroyed the phones WITH A HAMMER. But y'know, I hear they can never truly erase emails for good..."<br /><br />Roger Stone said her campaign is over Wednesday because of Wikileaks.<br /><br />They figured they'd try to get in at least one day of pro-Clinton BS before the deleted emails blow up the news cycle. But they should have waited for that to at least calm down somewhat before putting out fake polls. Now they only get one day and they'll be forgotten by the next day. Fake polls in a week or two, they could have lasted as a story.<br /><br />Whatever is in those emails, will be grater than whatever happens in the debates.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-87073900489857144702016-10-03T20:48:54.701-04:002016-10-03T20:48:54.701-04:00It's the final weeks of the election. This is...It's the final weeks of the election. This is it and they're not going to be leaving anything to chance. These people say that they have a duty to make sure Trump does not get elected. Any attempt at objectivity is going to be met with angry leftists (see: Matt Lauer). The election is only going to get crazier from here if Trump is still leading.Random Dude on the Internetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-29951171033085874502016-10-03T18:12:20.437-04:002016-10-03T18:12:20.437-04:00Keep up the good work. Really enjoy your informed ...Keep up the good work. Really enjoy your informed commentary.Tony Lawlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12726371731236987049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-37308082106225833032016-10-03T16:57:04.669-04:002016-10-03T16:57:04.669-04:00Wow, now even CNN is releasing liar polls -- Clint...Wow, now even CNN is releasing liar polls -- Clinton up 5-6. They had a great record in 2012, and so far in 2016.<br /><br />You'd think that since they're the Clinton News Network, they'd be among the worst offenders, but their m.o. is like the Clintons' -- farm the ugly work out, and comment on it, but put out better stuff yourself. So they'll give massive coverage to the bogus polls by NBC, WaPo, Suffolk, etc., while only releasing good polls of their own -- to protect their reputation for accuracy.<br /><br />They've now abandoned their reputation in a last-ditch effort to stop Trump -- like some bogus poll is going to do anything.<br /><br />Also right on cue, Quinnipiac puts out three liar polls as well. They're at least conceding Ohio, and are going to concede Florida and North Carolina in stages, so that the news cycle does not paint a picture of an abrupt coup for Trump, but instead a gradual peeling away of the close states from last time.<br /><br />Even Reuters has Trump up 4 in the Southeast region, for the final week of September. Putting back in those soft Trump supporters, it's closer to Trump +10 for the region. That includes Florida and North Carolina, which will be a greater part of the sample since they're the most populous. It's impossible for Trump to be up so high in the region, yet not ahead in both those states.<br /><br />They will probably concede Pennsylvania last, since that is our biggest challenge out of OH, FL, NC, and PA. But already they've admitted it's no worse than Clinton +4.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-1005824439870427652016-10-03T15:58:32.506-04:002016-10-03T15:58:32.506-04:00Didn't read the comment, but there was a pic o...Didn't read the comment, but there was a pic of her partying with Huma Abedin, Crooked Hillary's live-in lesbo lover since the mid-'90s.<br /><br />I'd say that at least raises the chance that she's bi.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-38090878797495551152016-10-03T12:55:48.731-04:002016-10-03T12:55:48.731-04:00OT: is Barbara Bush (Dubya's daughter) a lesbi...OT: is Barbara Bush (Dubya's daughter) a lesbian? This commenter at Free Republic lays out an interesting case:<br /><br />http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3476126/posts?page=34#34<br /><br />Some other people tried to push back by noting she's had a couple boyfriends, but a Google Image search on them is ... not reassuring.Tomnoreply@blogger.com