tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post3118364012268103220..comments2024-03-28T18:19:57.964-04:00Comments on Face to Face: The media landscape: A guide to the coming collapse and re-alignment eventsagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-21524709887321694752017-01-21T18:43:17.892-05:002017-01-21T18:43:17.892-05:00"Has it ever occurred to you how astonishing ..."Has it ever occurred to you how astonishing the culture of Western society really is? Industrialized nations provide their citizens with unprecedented safety, health, and comfort. Average life spans increased fifty percent in the last century. Yet modern people live in abject fear. They are afraid of strangers, of disease, of crime, of the environment. They are afraid of the homes they live in, the food they eat, the technology that surrounds them. They are in a particular panic over things they can't even see - germs, chemicals, additives, pollutants. They are timid, nervous, fretful, and depressed. And even more amazingly they are convinced that the environment of the entire planet is being destroyed around them. Remarkable! Like the belief in witchcraft, it's an extraordinary delusion - a global fantasy worthy of the Middle Ages. Everything is going to hell, and we must all live in fear. Amazing."<br /><br />"In reality, for the last fifteen years(novel published in 2004) we have been under the control of an entirely new complex, far more powerful and far more pervasive. I call it the politico-legal-media complex. The PLM. And it is dedicated to promoting fear in the population - under the guise of promoting safety."<br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-90890778942700701732017-01-21T18:30:22.803-05:002017-01-21T18:30:22.803-05:00The media helped create the cocooning environment ...The media helped create the cocooning environment by perpetuating a climate of fear. here is an excerpt from the late, great Michael Crichton's "State of Fear", about a change in media presentation beginning around 1989:<br /><br />"If you study the media, as my graduate students and I do, seeking to find shifts in normative conceptualization, you discover something extremely interesting. We looked at transcripts of news programs of the major networks - NBC, ABC, CBS. We also looked at stories in the newspapers of New York, Washington, Miami, Los Angeles, and Seattle. We counted the frequency of certain concepts and terms used by the media. The results were very striking."<br /><br />"There was a major shift in the fall of 1989. Before that time, the media did not make excessive use of terms such as 'crisis', 'catastrophe', 'cataclysm', 'plague', or 'disaster'. For example, during the 1980s, the word 'crisis' appeared in news reports about as often as the word 'budget'. In addition, prior to 1989, adjectives such as 'dire', 'unprecedented', 'dreaded' were not common in television reports or newspaper headlines. But then it all changed."<br /><br />"These terms started to become more and more common. The word 'catastrophe' was used five times more often in 1995 than it was in 1985. Its use doubled again by the year 2000. And the stories changed, too. There was a heightened emphasis on fear, worry, danger, uncertainty, panic."<br /><br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-38460727174005585202017-01-19T15:26:17.112-05:002017-01-19T15:26:17.112-05:00Twitter limp-wristed censorship note: auto-complet...Twitter limp-wristed censorship note: auto-complete in search box will not return "Trump" or "Michael Tracey" accounts until you spell the entire thing out.<br /><br />Surely making us type an extra couple keystrokes to find anti-Establishment voices will re-install the Uniparty next time!<br /><br />They have no Plan B.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-87267129503214588772017-01-16T22:26:52.094-05:002017-01-16T22:26:52.094-05:00"That said, what people are arguing about cha..."That said, what people are arguing about changes depending on other factors. as you say, there was some kind of social change in the late-80s/early-90s, where people stopped arguing about economic issues and changed focus to lifestyle issues. This might be because of improving economy - when people suffer economically they focus more on economic issues, when people have more money they fixate on lifestyle issues."<br /><br />I think by that point we we're seeing the emergence of a distinctly ruthless and cosmopolitan and rootless cultural elite. It was clear already that many Boomers were in a tough spot (to be joined by the next several generations) but fewer and fewer came to care as elites (whose opinions eventually filter down to the masses) embraced the dog eat dog climate.<br /><br />Hell, in this decade we've seen elites matter of factly claim that a sizable chunk of workers are simply not necessary anymore; their problems don't arise from poor working conditions/wages/benefits or even from their own poor choices, but rather, our modern economy just doesn't have any use for them. Technology is cop-out since it doesn't explain how the Silent generation was able to carve out a comfortable life with minimal effort or talent, like no other generation had ever done before. The early Boomers basically drafted behind the Slients. And those born since have gotten royally screwed with dwindling support or sympathy. It's not much different from Dickensian England, when the educated classes claimed that a wide swath of the poor were literally programmed to poverty by virtue of genetics.Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-41771823522060134582017-01-16T22:00:08.640-05:002017-01-16T22:00:08.640-05:00I guess we started mucking around too much in othe...I guess we started mucking around too much in other people's affairs back then, but it was pretty light-weight compared to what we've done since 9/11. One longs for the 80's, when small groups of Americans were involved in at times misguided and ultimately counter-productive efforts to fight the commies. But given how enormously destructive and totalitarian communism was in it's worst mid-century excesses (not to mention aggressively hostile towards religion), the West had good reason to want to thwart Left-wing governments/movements thought to be sympathetic towards the Soviet style or outright Soviet annexation.<br /><br />I'm not sure it's fair to be that hard on pre 90's efforts to deal with communism. Until the late 80's, it was really thought by many (non-hardcore Leftist) Americans that the Soviets were legitimately a threat to the world. You really want to slap commie symps upside the head for minimizing Soviet malignance and maximizing the notion that the West was decadent and a bully (mind you, Russia deliberately botched serial killer investigations on account of the idea that only the dirty capitalists were capable of such horrors).<br /><br />LOL at the idea that Americans supporting coups and death squads in 1980's Latin America is even remotely the moral equivalent of what Stalin and Mao did. And given how screwed up the 3rd and 2nd world is, it's also laughable to think that these places would've been wonderful in the absence of America and it's goons. But given the preponderance of Jews and white guilt ridden WASPs in our cultural power centers, a lot of people are never going to quite grasp just how terrible communism is (or the fact that in the mid-century, America was indeed being subverted by actual commies many of whom were Russian Jews).Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-76886577066402437182017-01-16T21:35:45.508-05:002017-01-16T21:35:45.508-05:00"the 80s actually were a period of intense po..."the 80s actually were a period of intense political involvement. Agnostic has written about how there were conservative Christians emigrating to Central America etc." <br /><br />This has to be disentangled from striving. G.I. Gen Americans often were reluctant to move to another state, let alone another country. By the time all Boomers were adults in the 80's, we were both sending our own people abroad as well as admitting tons of foreigners into America. Keep in mind too that Silents and especially Boomers, in their search for excitement and "enlightenment", often sought out foreign stuff under the post 60's Left-wing assumption that white Western culture was somehow debased and soulless. Many Left-wingers born in the 30's, 40's, and 50's hated the G.I. machine, blaming it for mechanized warfare and pollution. They bought into the cultural Marxist notion (even Fred Reed does, for god sake's) that brown and yellow people are essentially wholesome until ugly white people, with their notions of "progress" and rationalism, blunder into the scene.<br /><br />It's remarkable how even nominally conservative white Boomers/late Silents (like Charles Murray, Jared Tayler, and Reed) didn't even marry white women. Yeah, the 60's were an ugly period for foreign policy and we did look stupid (though it must be noted that some right-wing Boomers thought that the reason we lost in SE Asia is because we should've been MORE tough). But that's no excuse to totally go off of one's ethnic reservation in a (vain) attempt to atone for tribal sins. For the miscegenators, I really wonder if we're dealing with a sort of deeply inadequate masochist type. Deny yourself a co-ethnic who thinks, acts, dresses, and smells like you in favor of an inscrutable exotic foreigner.<br /><br />Oh, and I wouldn't expect a Silent Jew to understand what conservatism is. It's hard to think of something less conservative than leaving one's homeland (unless it's in the course of defending it) or not marrying within one's race.<br /><br />In the very outgoing 1920's, we actually shut immigration off almost totally and many Americans were keen on reducing cosmopolitanism. Sounds good to me.Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-23192157951890371362017-01-16T19:58:37.431-05:002017-01-16T19:58:37.431-05:00Here's the post: "The Left in the 80s&qu...Here's the post: "The Left in the 80s"<br /><br />"In fact, I'm going to quote Chomsky at length to establish that the various movements were not about Left vs. Right but about popular vs. elite control. There was a leftist flavor to The Movement (TM) of the late '60s and early '70s, but that had eroded by the '80s, when those championing popular causes were on one side, and those defending the elite were on the other."<br /><br />quoting Noam Chomsky:<br />"In fact, what you have now is much more serious activists in many more places(more serious than the 1960s). I travel all the time and give talks all over the place. I've been amazed to go to places throughout the 1980s ... take, say, the Central America solidarity movement, which I think is a pretty dramatic development. I don't think there's been anything like it in history. I'd go to a church in Kansas or a town in Montana or Wyoming or Anchorage, Alaska and find people who knew more about Latin America, certainly, than the CIA, which is not very hard, but people in academic departments who've thought about it, who understood things about American policy."<br /><br />"I can't even tell you their names. There are too many of them. Also, I'm not even sure that the word "left" is the right word for them. A lot of them were probably Christian conservatives, but they were very radical people in my view."<br /><br />"In the 1960s nobody ever dreamt of going off to a Vietnamese village because maybe a white face in the village would limit the capacity of the marauders to kill and destroy. ...... But in the eighties it was common."<br /><br />https://akinokure.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-left-in-1980s-what-did-they-focus.html<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-81508784167750465542017-01-16T19:44:03.476-05:002017-01-16T19:44:03.476-05:00"The period of about 1975 (end of Vietnam) th..."The period of about 1975 (end of Vietnam) thru 1987 (right before the left-right cultural fault line widened) didn't have many "controversies" or message movies."<br /><br />I see political involvement as correlating with the crime rate more than anything else. First, political discussions are social. Second, they tend to be rough, so when people are more passive they don't want to argue with each other. It also takes work to educate yourself about politics without looking like an idiot. Third, political interest is a sign of maturity - children don't know anything about politics, teenagers know some things but take unrealistic positions, whereas adults know the most about politics. So when the population is more mature, they are also more political.<br /><br />the 80s actually were a period of intense political involvement. Agnostic has written about how there were conservative Christians emigrating to Central America etc. <br /><br />That said, what people are arguing about changes depending on other factors. as you say, there was some kind of social change in the late-80s/early-90s, where people stopped arguing about economic issues and changed focus to lifestyle issues. This might be because of improving economy - when people suffer economically they focus more on economic issues, when people have more money they fixate on lifestyle issues.<br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-7988993658653033422017-01-16T16:46:53.853-05:002017-01-16T16:46:53.853-05:00The impression I get is that political involvement...The impression I get is that political involvement mostly coincides with PC periods and/or protracted wars/protracted domestic strife. The period of about 1975 (end of Vietnam) thru 1987 (right before the left-right cultural fault line widened) didn't have many "controversies" or message movies.<br /><br />By comparison, the Vietnam and civil rights era of the late 60's and early 70's had lots of protests and preachy songs/movies. Around 1988 the PC/inital culture war broke out and even metal bands started writing political lyrics, whereas in the golden era of classic rock (1976-1981), groups like Styx, Journey, Foreigner, Billy Squier, etc. almost never talked about "important" social issues or politics. The Bush 1/Clinton era culture warriors got worn out by around 1995 and things lightened up for the next 10 years or so. <br /><br />When the Iraq/Afghan wars began to drag on in the mid 2000's, public discontent and discord showed up along with various artists complaining about Bush and the war. As America's imperial overreach has become undeniable, it made the culture of about 2006-2016 pretty pretentious and glum. Not helping is Obama stirring up Culture War part 2, this time with the president himself openly pitting the races against each other. Whereas in the relatively light-weight early 90's culture war, blacks were stirred up by irresponsible media and some Leftists nostalgic for more 60's style upheaval but the impact was blunted by Dems and moderates not wanting to alienate the then quite conservative white population. Recall that under Bush, the government investigated rap music as a threat to law and order.<br /><br />Obama has failed to keep civic order to a degree not seen since the 1800's. Trump has a lot of work to do, a lot of demons to vanquish before we can get back to a lighter mood and much less preaching and angst.<br /><br />It perhaps is plausible that being outgoing diminishes military over-reach. People kept that cat in the bag in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's even as the CIA and early neo-cons were trying hard to egg on more belligerence. And in the 80's, Reagan was criticized by some liberals for being "macho" and merely building up the military as opposed to actually using it. Which only happened briefly on a handful of occasions. Meanwhile, in the current cocooning period we've become convinced that we should meddle in other countries to the point of blowing them up and then attempting to supervise the rebuilding.Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-72896987950033155882017-01-16T14:44:26.789-05:002017-01-16T14:44:26.789-05:00Interesting regional shake-ups occurring, too, as ...Interesting regional shake-ups occurring, too, as the Midwest goes Republican -- and not just because the whole rest of the country went Republican (as in '72, '80, and '84), but standing out against roughly half of the country in doing so. Really sticking their necks out against coastal elites.<br /><br />First, Greta Van Susteren is promoted to MSNBC, where she stands out more than at Fox. She is not assimilated into the hysterical coastal liberal fold, but is a non-partisan pragmatic semi-populist. She speaks with a Wisconsin accent and references the Packers, not whatever degenerate Hamilton crap her coastal-accented peers are talking about.<br /><br />Clearly a move by MSNBC to salvage some of their tribal appeal to middle America. If their tribal appeal only extends to the coasts, then they're done. I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Moore is given more time there as well.<br /><br />Also, Bob Woodward is coming out against the CIA-CNN propaganda campaign, and therefore also against his former partner Carl Bernstein.<br /><br />Obviously there's a Jew vs. non-Jew angle there. But more than that, Woodward grew up in the Great Lakes (Chicago metro), whereas Bernstein is from the DC metro.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-38000841288434987092017-01-16T12:00:17.272-05:002017-01-16T12:00:17.272-05:00This is also related to the crime rate. cocooning...This is also related to the crime rate. cocooning makes people more apathetic and willing to accept a substandard product. Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if, over the past 25 years, the public has been consuming less news. Having less political discussions with others, which is a social thing, so less of a need to inform oneself of the news. <br /><br />But now that the culture is becoming more outgoing, and people are consuming more news, they're becoming more cognizant of how mediocre most organizations have become. Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-40239071547707382212017-01-15T18:41:41.756-05:002017-01-15T18:41:41.756-05:00> The Establishment made a mistake pushing the ...> The Establishment made a mistake pushing the fake news meme.<br /><br />The left is so used to being the only ones with the megaphone that they can't imagine anyone would be able to turn something around on them. Now it is being done on a regular basis and they are scrambling to maintain control. This is why the ADL and SPLC have come in recently and declared just about every right wing meme to be hate speech. Even they are finding it tough to get people to fall in line through that method.<br /><br />All it means is to keep doing what we're doing and they will start destructing. Even better is that on the way to self destruction, they will find shadier and shadier business associates to provide capital injections. Imagine Al Jazeera buying CNN or The New York Times being run by a front for a narcocartel. Maybe Jeff Bezos will get bored and sell his stake in the Washington Post to RT. In the twilight era of the media, we're going to see some interesting relationships form. That is why it is important to find ways to break up these media conglomerates.Random Dude on the Internetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-67636980813439593982017-01-15T16:35:43.577-05:002017-01-15T16:35:43.577-05:00The Establishment made a mistake pushing the fake ...The Establishment made a mistake pushing the fake news meme. gumdeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16176571456227420680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-59714710567432733482017-01-14T21:09:02.276-05:002017-01-14T21:09:02.276-05:00OT--any thoughts?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2...OT--any thoughts?<br /><br />http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-14/trump-has-6-goldman-appointees-swamp-drains-youtheo the krauthttp://bit.ly/2gry8T4noreply@blogger.com