tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post3055121846079092345..comments2024-03-18T17:20:21.775-04:00Comments on Face to Face: To prevent coup by brass, Trump must rally rank-and-file troops and agentsagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-19715370194063572422017-05-31T13:08:13.838-04:002017-05-31T13:08:13.838-04:00The rank-and-file absolutely would rally around Tr...The rank-and-file absolutely would rally around Trump, but not all of the brass -- perhaps not even a majority of them. And it only takes a determined zealous minority to stage a coup.<br /><br />But if Trump had rallied open and explicit support for his side beforehand among the rank-and-file, that would make the conspirators think twice about how much resistance and preparation Trump's side would already have.<br /><br />The judiciary is irrelevant because they have little leverage. They depend on an armed group to enforce their decisions and opinions. And the weight of those decisions relies on the people perceiving them as legitimate. Meanwhile their credibility has been totally shot by the BS against the Muslim ban, and decades of frivolous outcomes and judicial activism.<br /><br />The Judicial Watch folks have been saying the best way to neuter the activist judges is to simply clarify that district-level judges don't have jurisdiction over national policies, so they can't even hear cases to begin with if they're about immigration, war, etc.<br /><br />That would severely dry up the pool of traitors to recruit from by the judge-shoppers.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-81587697123635400642017-05-31T08:17:12.185-04:002017-05-31T08:17:12.185-04:00IMHO the military won't rally around Trump. Be...IMHO the military won't rally around Trump. Because they obey the Permanent Government, that is whoever writes their checks not the Commander in Chief, after all, more of an honorary title than anything. <br />If I were Trump, I'd stage a counter-coup against the Judicial Power. Impeach them, or force those judges opposing his executive orders to obey or resign. Surely, he's got some dirt on them than he can use against them. BB753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-17414264774653638012017-05-21T22:01:53.639-04:002017-05-21T22:01:53.639-04:00https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/Ezekielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15442971682346253234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-25629621576894661862017-05-21T22:01:20.537-04:002017-05-21T22:01:20.537-04:00Might be worth noting that the psychological profi...Might be worth noting that the psychological profile of a spree killer and a suicide bomber are just about identical. It wouldn't take many to get the ball rolling. <br /><br />There's a fuzzy line between revolution and civil war, but I could see either one happening in the wake of a Trump impeachment, or one followed by the other. There's probably more people calling themselves "alt-right" in America today than there were Bolsheviks in pre-World War I Russia. How long until we see an act of terrorism committed in the name of Kek?Ezekielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15442971682346253234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-43777689965744441762017-05-18T11:40:23.520-04:002017-05-18T11:40:23.520-04:00I think one thing you predicted (I think it was yo...I think one thing you predicted (I think it was you) has come to pass. A while back you suggested Trump could control congress by using the same methods others have used: blackmail.<br /><br />While congress is largely still out of control, one guy that looks like he's been brought to heel is Lindsey Graham. Now, we all know what blackmail on Miss Lindsey is likely to be.<br /><br />Its just a guess, but he's certainly a guy to watch. A switch seems to have flipped some time in the past month or so.New Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05233808973191718108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-76541091113074194772017-05-18T10:02:16.423-04:002017-05-18T10:02:16.423-04:00It seems like a full on revolt or revolution is ab...It seems like a full on revolt or revolution is about the only thing that would even deal a blow to the neo Praetorian Guard that is the Deep State. The problem is that I don't see any sort of metaphorical Milvian Bridge to finish them off completely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-59629673096869535482017-05-18T03:17:43.598-04:002017-05-18T03:17:43.598-04:00Another major factor in popular revolts / state br...Another major factor in popular revolts / state breakdown is how youthful the population is, and we've got the echo boom represented by the Millennials making the population a lot younger than it used to be recently.<br /><br />Some 20 year-old guy on /pol who just went on the rollercoaster of his lifetime with the Trump movement, who sees his hero get removed unceremoniously on bogus charges -- there's too many of those hotheaded young guys for none of them to martyr themselves by taking out one of the conspirators.<br /><br />Jesus, look at how much less they do that for -- the virgin avenger types.<br /><br />Right now, they're just doing cosplay rioting against Antifa. If the election were canceled, at least some of them would go hardcore for real. Street fighting if they're the Chad type, easy-to-use guns if they're the video-game junkie physique type.<br /><br />Peter Turchin's data shows another wave of collective political violence or political instability around 2020, going in 50-year periods (last peak around 1970, then around 1920, Civil War / Reconstruction around 1870).<br /><br />The elites are data-hungry technocrats -- maybe a presentation on Turchin's cycles would scare them straight.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-88843120600550146002017-05-18T03:09:03.837-04:002017-05-18T03:09:03.837-04:00I don't know if it would turn into civil war, ...I don't know if it would turn into civil war, which implies two sides with their own separate elites, usually divided by region ethnicity etc.<br /><br />That would be like the West Coast vs. the Midwest.<br /><br />If the elites removed Trump, that would trigger more of a popular revolt against the elites, maybe a full-blown revolution (no one can predict how far a fat-tail event will go).<br /><br />Disgruntled commoners would see their peaceful means of trying to influence the government blocked by the unfair Establishment, and a zealous minority of them would just start picking off the Establishment members. "You take out ours, we take out yours."<br /><br />Pelosi, Schumer, Ryan, McConnell -- bing, bing, bing, bing.<br /><br />If the Pentagon brass played a role, fragging would return big-league.<br /><br />Media HQs would get firebombed.<br /><br />Again, it's not as though the average American would take part in any of that. But removing Trump on bogus charges would trigger a zealous minority into settling the score, and they would not care if they got taken out themselves after getting even.<br /><br />There's too much economic misery and inequality, too much righteous anger if an election were canceled, too many guns lying around, and too much of a "nothing left to lose" mindset if the elites removed the People's President.<br /><br />The sheltered elites still think they can just grind the little people under their boot and not face any real backlash. So I don't think they're thinking through the contingencies at all, making them even more dangerous. They have no skin in the game -- in their minds, they're safe forever.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-13388370240369704292017-05-18T00:25:57.639-04:002017-05-18T00:25:57.639-04:00Weev said it well when he said that the Establishm...Weev said it well when he said that the Establishment doesn't seem to understand is that Trump is not the last chance for us, he's the last chance for them.<br /><br />I almost wonder if he's trying to get the Puzzle Palace to come at him. What usually happens to the instigators of a failed coup? The smarter ones have good enough sense to eat a bullet before loyalist forces take them into custody.<br /><br />As for rank-and-file military... yeah. I'm just up the road from Anniston Army Depot and from what I know of them, they'll take up arms against Trump right after the truckers, ranchers and coal miners launch a general strike against him.<br /><br />As bad as failure would be, I wonder what their plans are for handling the civil war that would follow Trump's removal...Ezekielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15442971682346253234noreply@blogger.com