tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post2816912762800034165..comments2024-03-28T21:56:51.675-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Will Australia succeed America as the world's leading society?agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-87437085862939270952011-06-17T17:44:56.904-04:002011-06-17T17:44:56.904-04:00It's interesting that the Japanese appear to h...It's interesting that the Japanese appear to have been replaced by agriculturalists from Korea around 2000 BC, by all accounts (genetic, linguistic).<br /><br />South Korea seems like it's growing pretty well - no state bubble there?<br /><br />We don't know how long those people were agriculturalists of course, and I've seen suggestions that there was an imprint by a pastoralist society overlaying a proto-Korean-Japanese rice agriculturalist society (to explain Korean-Japanese's inclusion in the Altaic family).<br /><br />It's tough to really see what global preeminence means if not vast military force, technological progress and GDP per capita.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-16159125757563487512011-06-16T23:56:03.142-04:002011-06-16T23:56:03.142-04:00Sure, Australia has PC, but again success is alway...Sure, Australia has PC, but again success is always relative. It's not as though America didn't have all kinds of things holding it back during its heyday, but on balance we had stronger cohesion than the other countries.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-62299861687377784352011-06-16T14:25:14.685-04:002011-06-16T14:25:14.685-04:00Political correctness is what lay underneath all t...Political correctness is what lay underneath all the things I listed.LSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-68675135953338313392011-06-16T10:14:35.194-04:002011-06-16T10:14:35.194-04:00Forgive my autism if I took you somewhat seriously...Forgive my autism if I took you somewhat seriously regarding your post about Australia(Anon 8:52). Australia will remain a middle power for some time. Australia's population would need to increase tenfold to worry China. I can't see it being a Superpower to anyone outside of Nauru and Tuvalu. It may remain a pleasant white flight option for the next 30 years. We only caught the American Disease 40 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-33427959570154373722011-06-15T22:52:54.752-04:002011-06-15T22:52:54.752-04:00I'm Australian. I believe we have just about r...I'm Australian. I believe we have just about reached peak height in our <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_future_Human_Development_Index_projections_of_the_United_Nations" rel="nofollow">trajectory</a>. I don't feel we have much left in the tank. In recent years we've been shot high into the air by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita" rel="nofollow">Chinese stimuli</a>. But the Chinese bubble will burst. Demographic change is occurring. Thankfully many of our non-white immigrants have been East Asians and clever Indians due to our skilled immigration policy. But we are Western and the West is tired. We don't believe in ourselves. We don't have the ticker. The Anglo-Celt majority is growing old and being replaced. We are tired. The barbarians are at the gates(beaches) and eventually they will be let in.<br /><br />"How influential are the Jews in Australia?"<br /><br />Jews in Australia are mostly building the temple rather than <a href="http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/history-wars/2010/01/robert-manne-a-case-to-answer" rel="nofollow">tearing it down</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-30286987723215291202011-06-15T21:26:11.551-04:002011-06-15T21:26:11.551-04:00"Incompetent local government and police, han..."Incompetent local government and police, hand-outs based on skin color, horrendous family court system, jobs taken by Kiwis, and a big dose of Tall Poppy Syndrome."<br /><br />Well like I said, their future looks good relative to other Western countries. They don't seem as swamped by political correctness and identity politics as Europe and North America.<br /><br />Related to that -- how influential are the Jews in Australia? That's usually a symptom that the country is breaking down and losing cohesion. Not that they start it, but that they only come to real power once their host populations are bitterly divided internally, like Eastern Europe after its medieval heyday, or America in the past 20 years.<br /><br />Stronger nations have either kept them in check (like America during our height of influence, or the Victorians who had plenty of Jew jokes), or kicked them out altogether (like France and Spain right before a major expansionist phase).agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-82669115446060630252011-06-15T21:21:51.680-04:002011-06-15T21:21:51.680-04:00"For the reasons you give about China not bec..."For the reasons you give about China not becoming the Big Kahuna, I don't think they will make the big push south. It's not in them."<br /><br />Yeah, I don't see it so much as a military invasion, since they have been bred to be mostly defensive against pastoralist incursions on their farmland.<br /><br />I'm thinking more some kind of modern economic "war."agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-71502584415106798472011-06-15T21:20:04.546-04:002011-06-15T21:20:04.546-04:00"The Scottish, Welsh, and Irish (during the p..."The Scottish, Welsh, and Irish (during the prime) would be incensed to be left out."<br /><br />Then they can start drinking their sorrows away now. LOL at trying to lump the Irish and Welsh in with the English at the height of English influence, i.e. the Victorian era. In real life, they were devastated by the potato famine and leaving the country in droves.<br /><br />The Scottish have had a fair cultural influence, and helped with the industrial revolution, but they were never the center of political power during England's heyday.<br /><br />""decadent phase" in your second paragraph falsely implies that is the primary reason for the decline of the previously mentioned cultures."<br /><br />It only falsely implies that to an autistic spazz like you. It is a descriptive term.<br /><br />"NZ? Wow, I seriously hope you were just making a joke, otherwise your ignorance of the dynamics of that region are astounding."<br /><br />Autism confirmed.<br /><br />"the reality of its resources and location negate the possibility. "<br /><br />Resources don't matter. Check out the Mongols, the Turks, the Victorians, the etc. etc. When you have a large sphere of influence, you don't have to be your own breadbasket.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-89737341467516642402011-06-15T14:55:24.265-04:002011-06-15T14:55:24.265-04:00I used to think the same, but a friend in Oz has o...I used to think the same, but a friend in Oz has opened my eyes.<br /><br />Incompetent local government and police, hand-outs based on skin color, horrendous family court system, jobs taken by Kiwis, and a big dose of Tall Poppy Syndrome.LSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-78652205981167855882011-06-15T10:44:52.356-04:002011-06-15T10:44:52.356-04:00Interesting post. The question is will China give...Interesting post. The question is will China give the Ozzies a Salamis moment. If the Persians had been a little luckier (little smarter) and had come out on top in the battle, history would have changed.<br /><br />If the Australians have an epic struggle and come out on top, great.<br /><br />For the reasons you give about China not becoming the Big Kahuna, I don't think they will make the big push south. It's not in them.Richard Morchoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14884103775820347526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-21188213216975280212011-06-15T10:04:36.097-04:002011-06-15T10:04:36.097-04:00Your ignorance of the world outside the US borders...Your ignorance of the world outside the US borders and willful disregard for true historical cause and effect (I can only assume you create your own version to push your agenda) shines through in your first two and last paragraphs.<br /><br />- England is not a country. I assume you refer to the United Kingdom. The Scottish, Welsh, and Irish (during the prime) would be incensed to be left out.<br />- "decadent phase" in your second paragraph falsely implies that is the primary reason for the decline of the previously mentioned cultures.<br />- NZ? Wow, I seriously hope you were just making a joke, otherwise your ignorance of the dynamics of that region are astounding.<br />- While I would love to agree with you that AU could "take the torch" (It's comforting to think that a Western-style society will always remain on top in the centuries to come.), the reality of its resources and location negate the possibility. 10% arable land, population just now approaching 23M, and isolation from the prime Western powers ensure it will not have the social influence or economic clout you seek for a very, very long time; probably after WWIII, when there is nobody left to compete.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com