tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post1757792072267703950..comments2024-03-28T21:56:51.675-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Full steam ahead, against divided Demsagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-75640340339824136962016-11-14T03:00:12.918-05:002016-11-14T03:00:12.918-05:00I also predict that the libs and progs, even the g...I also predict that the libs and progs, even the good ones, will react to this as though Trump = Hitler because he's protecting citizens who can't defend themselves from gangs, drunk driving Mexicans, Muslim terrorists, and the like.<br /><br />Any strong use of the government = authoritarianism, in their minds.<br /><br />So, they will turn themselves into caricatured anarchists in the minds of normal Americans. If you have to use the Army to root out MS-13 in the Southwest, then do it! Individuals cannot do it, local police departments can't do it, who the hell else is there besides the National Guard or the Army?<br /><br />The more they call Trump and his supporters "fascists" for protecting defenseless citizens against organized violent foreigners, the more irrelevant they make themselves.<br /><br />I'm hoping the good ones will at least be able to spin it as, "Well, I hate seeing displays of force like that, and we never want the President to have to mobilize the Army within our own borders... but then again, it's MS-13 we're talking about. I hate that they're there, forcing us to use the military, when we prefer never to have to use it."agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-77774088933915608832016-11-14T02:53:30.357-05:002016-11-14T02:53:30.357-05:00We're going to have a strong rather than weak ...We're going to have a strong rather than weak government, so they'll go pretty quickly.<br /><br />In addition to ICE / Border Control, Trump can federalize the National Guard of all 50 states, not to mention the US Army, Marines, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard.<br /><br />Two-bit gangs like MS-13 have only been spreading and enjoying success because of weak government. Once they face the possibility of the US Army, they will either flee fast or get wasted instantly. No more dicking around with El Jefe.<br /><br />And if the gangs do put up a fight, citizens will appreciate Trump even more for ejecting such a violent foreign element from our own country.<br /><br />Nobody will cry when the deportee is a spic who killed innocent people while driving drunk.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-87769533719390404802016-11-14T01:30:37.958-05:002016-11-14T01:30:37.958-05:00How smoothly do you predict deportations to go? 60...How smoothly do you predict deportations to go? 60 minutes interview estimates 2-3 million illegals engaged in criminal activity. I don't expect they will go quietly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-78825650365295408192016-11-13T14:26:26.097-05:002016-11-13T14:26:26.097-05:00The GOP's problem with women before was the mo...The GOP's problem with women before was the moralistic natalist focus they had -- if you weren't married with children, there was something wrong with you.<br /><br />Trump and his family clearly like making babies and raising children, but they don't moralize it into something being wrong with the woman if she isn't doing likewise. There must be some external social, economic, etc. conditions that need to be changed so that all women can do what they want to do, and be wives and mothers.<br /><br />And that's to the extent that they focused on gender and kinship at all -- mostly it was about the economy and the government. Why can't an unmarried woman, a single mother, or a chick with tattoos get on board with his economic and governmental platforms?agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-47632829120986124742016-11-13T14:20:25.136-05:002016-11-13T14:20:25.136-05:00"I'm almost shocked that white women favo..."I'm almost shocked that white women favored Trump, albeit by just 1%."<br /><br />Race trumps gender because race / ethnicity is a social-cultural group, while a gender is not. Tribalistic thinking latches onto these social-cultural groups, not just any old definition of a group.<br /><br />So if the Dems want to turn up the heat in the identity politics war, white women will choose the white side rather than the feminist side. Especially if they see white men standing clearly on the white side, and it induces their conformist response.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-54859853062578023512016-11-13T11:11:22.018-05:002016-11-13T11:11:22.018-05:00Don't forget Obama losing the popular vote in ...Don't forget Obama losing the popular vote in the 2008 Democratic primaries. Somehow that was ok.lexie88https://www.blogger.com/profile/02193817657084020002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8425437915692940112016-11-13T10:51:14.697-05:002016-11-13T10:51:14.697-05:00The hypocrisy is something else. The Dems were mor...The hypocrisy is something else. The Dems were more than happy to live with the electoral college, which in the post 1988 era got them: <br />- Clear victories in 1992,1996, 2008, 2012<br />- A disputed loss in 2000<br />- Two undisputed losses in 2004 (which was close) and 2016 (the biggest electoral loss for the Dems since 1988)<br /><br />To give them a sports record, that's 4-2-1<br /> <br />I see that Wiki has locked their electoral college article due to petulant partisans.<br /><br />Out of all the developments to emerge in this election, I didn't foresee validation for the electoral college. But that's exactly what happened. The West coast is such a basketcase that it's proving just why we can't let a particular region or state monopolize election power.<br /><br />Keep in mind that whites in the Eastern Midwest, the Mid-Atlantic, and New England haven't been this receptive to the GOP president since the 80's. If we had similar racial demos to the 80's, Trump would've easily won the popular vote and several more Eastern states. Meanwhile, out on the left coast, even the least pretentious state, Oregon, saw whites vote against Trump. Yuck.<br /><br />http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/minnesota/president<br /><br />MN whites broke for Trump, but 14% of independents and a fair amount of Reps. going 3rd party is what cost him the state (only about 3% of Dems went 3rd party). I'm almost shocked that white women favored Trump, albeit by just 1%. That's still progress.<br /><br />The Dems are earnestly stunned and enraged because their entitlement's been violated. They thought that a coalition of liberal Northeastern whites, Mid-Atlantic and Rust-belt blacks, and Western Mexicans/white flakes would never be disrupted by a populist candidate.<br /><br />The rage at the EC is all the more bizarre given just how narrow Trump's victories in PA, FL, and MI were. Granted, the elimination of E-voting and enforcing strict ID measures in urban areas would've given Trump better numbers, but arguing fraud isn't going to persuade Dems since it doesn't exist as far as the Dem partisans are concerned.<br /><br />BTW, even my dad was pushing the popular vote meme. I told him that California is so liberal, and has so many non-founding stock Americans and flakes, that it's effectively not part of America anymore. So as far as we should be concerned, the state's votes don't count. Thus, Trump did indeed win the popular vote among Real Americans. Not so much with people like the Washington mall shooter, who voted in several elections illegally before going beserk.Ferylnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-53725320560280253382016-11-13T07:50:04.899-05:002016-11-13T07:50:04.899-05:00The progs have had common ground with Trump all al...The progs have had common ground with Trump all along on economic issues but their emotional reactions have prevented them from thinking clearly. It will take time before they can start working across the aisle without being crucified. Until then, Trump has to make the most of his built-in republican majority.Giovanni Dannatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17078484856266829650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-38091926179452853722016-11-13T07:41:53.226-05:002016-11-13T07:41:53.226-05:00Trump will need to prevent them from constantly tr...Trump will need to prevent them from constantly trying to sabotage him in congress and to get behind him.<br />He only has a two vote lead in senate and needs enough votes to take down Ryan as speaker of the house.<br />Trump will have to make through his <a href="https://colonyofcommodus.wordpress.com/2016/11/13/president-trumps-first-baby-steps-and-the-big-picture/" rel="nofollow">administration's baby steps</a> before he can start to more aggressively dispense with them.Giovanni Dannatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17078484856266829650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-83766799112483352662016-11-13T07:35:25.251-05:002016-11-13T07:35:25.251-05:00They will just drive all the SWPLs into the populi...They will just drive all the SWPLs into the populist camp over time if they take that route. Looked up this Ellison guy briefly and he's a mess. An incoherent Muslim activist who seems to spend as much time on pet causes like South Sudan as on doing his actual job.<br />Only an ultra establishment shill like Schumer could think of putting forward someone like this. In the spirit of true cuckery, putting guys like Ellison in charge will end with him getting purged out of his own party.<br />One of the lessons of 2016 for dems is they don't have their minorities on a leash like they thought they did. They still haven't learned.Giovanni Dannatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17078484856266829650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-43818311162442694662016-11-13T03:22:47.897-05:002016-11-13T03:22:47.897-05:00I am worried that Democrats will make a strong eff...I am worried that Democrats will make a strong effort to end the electoral college. Yet with Republicans controlling everything the EC should be safe. Our founding fathers were geniuses to come up with such a system. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15373560420508884302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-39102006283290136892016-11-12T20:32:45.837-05:002016-11-12T20:32:45.837-05:00California was by far the worst state because they...California was by far the worst state because they've gone from primary to general for state offices to election and run-off for state offices.<br /><br />If you're a Republican why even bother to show up? Your candidate isn't in the general election. It goes completely contrary to the idea of letting the parties chose their candidates and the people choosing between parties. You know that your vote for President doesn't count so you have no reason to.Derrick Bonsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10624976943924251694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-37100076166642472992016-11-12T20:07:12.439-05:002016-11-12T20:07:12.439-05:00A delusion I neglected earlier -- "Hillary wo...A delusion I neglected earlier -- "Hillary won the popular vote," so it's really no biggie that she got blown out in the EC. Trump doesn't "really" have a mandate. Door is wide open to Dem revolt in near term.<br /><br />Republicans don't bother showing up in CA, NY, IL, and MA -- it's just Dem voters making a regular show of force and running victory laps.<br /><br />Trump didn't care about motivating his voters to show up in states where their efforts would be totally wasted. Hence the deficit in popular vote there, which is all that the national popular vote gap boils down to.<br /><br />But because the Dems are rabid partisan warriors, they are looking for any little thing to spin as a win, in order to not feel like total losers. So they're hanging onto this "popular vote" thing rather than seeing it for what it is.<br /><br />Clinging to this delusion ensures that they'll not only lose next time, but even worse than before because they think there's a national mandate for what Hillary stood for -- anti-white anti-male identity politics, corporate globalism, etc.<br /><br />Keep pushing that, and they'll lose MI and WI by double digits next time. Please do!agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-34574768099925565212016-11-12T18:51:25.066-05:002016-11-12T18:51:25.066-05:00I think you are mistaken in the opinion that the b...I think you are mistaken in the opinion that the black wing of the democrats would remain democrat regardless of what happens elsewhere. This may be the case of black boomers who constantly claim that the GOP would start rounding up citizen minorities like what happened in 1930s Germany. Note that the current leftist protesters are mainly white college students with only token minorities participating. What I'm saying is that younger minorities (at least in the black and citizen Latino communities) who haven't absorbed the boomer propaganda are very much amenable to a realignment led by a populist like trump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-38450072882015582002016-11-12T17:45:04.255-05:002016-11-12T17:45:04.255-05:00Would people have voted for Obama as the second bl...Would people have voted for Obama as the <i>second</i> black President?<br /><br />I agree that something about Obama's life story never sounded right to me, and after he passes power on to Trump, I'd like to see the truth come out about that. Albionic Americannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-24173275358262243282016-11-12T16:52:28.852-05:002016-11-12T16:52:28.852-05:00"could you please post a recommended reading ..."could you please post a recommended reading list"<br /><br />It may take awhile, but I'll start thinking about it.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-43324346719578995262016-11-12T16:17:28.849-05:002016-11-12T16:17:28.849-05:00"Obama was this guy but that's because th..."Obama was this guy but that's because there were a lot of factors for him to enjoy that no longer exist currently."<br /><br />The main one being "the first minority". No more novelty value.<br /><br />And now that most of those who voted for him are not excited, or even hate what he has turned out to be, they will be much more jaded and cynical when/if Obama 2 comes down the pike.<br /><br />I stand by "one cheer for Obama," though -- could have been Crooked Hillary or McCain!agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-34721765526748031472016-11-12T16:12:18.301-05:002016-11-12T16:12:18.301-05:00Ignore Tommy Hass -- he's a butthurt Mormon fa...Ignore Tommy Hass -- he's a butthurt Mormon faggot who will continue to be deleted.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-59124507086121756772016-11-12T16:11:17.678-05:002016-11-12T16:11:17.678-05:00Agnostic, could you please post a recommended read...Agnostic, could you please post a recommended reading list of works in sociology, polisci, history, etc. that would helpful in understanding US politics? The insights I have gained from reading your blog have been remarkable.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16859915456231590063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-12058454127007753802016-11-12T14:58:46.708-05:002016-11-12T14:58:46.708-05:00> "Bans on Twitter accounts with major fol...> "Bans on Twitter accounts with major followings will be subject to > federal approval, through Peter Thiel, so that they will not be<br />> arbitrary, vindictive, or ideological."<br /><br />> You must be mentally ill.<br /><br />I agree, much worse than the current policy of hurt feels as a justification for banning on Twitter.Random Dude on the Internetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-15728470522205804862016-11-12T12:01:45.123-05:002016-11-12T12:01:45.123-05:00I think it is too early to tell what direction the...I think it is too early to tell what direction the DNC will go down. Right now they are just knee jerk reacting as a decade's worth of hubris came crashing down on them on Tuesday. It will probably take them a good few months to figure out just what their strategy is for 2020. I think it's all a waste for them anyway.<br /><br />If the Democrats decide to go down the progressive route, non-white turnout will continue to be low. You could put someone like Tulsi Gabbard in the role to lead this wing. If she were to run in 2020, she would be 39 which would make her the youngest candidate. Also she is Asian, which is the wrong type of minority. Are there any strong black or latino candidates who would make a run with this group of people? If not, the turnout for minorities will continue to bottom out and Trump wins with a greater margin in 2020.<br /><br />If the Democrats decide to go down the identity politics route, they risk losing the remaining independent and moderate whites who don't hate being white and don't think they should be hated for being white either. SWPLs will continue to self flagellate but they are a small minority of Democrat-voting white people. I'd say there's upwards of 30 million Democrat voting whites who could be alienated if they go this direction. It would be insane to assume that all 30 million would go in 2020 but if Trump could peel off a few million whites, that would counter any minority gains. So in this case, they would lose again in 2020.<br /><br />The other option is banking on a unifier who can bring both groups together. Right now the Democrats don't have anyone like that. Hillary tried to be this person and didn't make it. Obama was this guy but that's because there were a lot of factors for him to enjoy that no longer exist currently. Cory Booker is not this guy. Julian Castro or Antonio Villaraigosa are not these guys. I don't even think there is someone white who could fill the role either. So they are totally screwed with this option.<br /><br />I agree, the clear and obvious solution is to continue driving a wedge into the split. They need to sit out the next 8-16 years while the country undoes decades worth of damage due to neoconservatism, identity politics, etc. Our work is just getting started.Random Dude on the Internetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-78548633128710407822016-11-12T04:51:53.226-05:002016-11-12T04:51:53.226-05:00Jordan Chariton is now laying blame on Obama, too....Jordan Chariton is now laying blame on Obama, too.<br /><br />First, for screwing up how the DNC was run, replacing Howard Dean with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz in order to get dat fat Jewish donor cash from Broward County. (Yes he names the Jew, and is Jewish himself... maybe half, "Chariton" sounds Greek.)<br /><br />Second, for betraying his initial anti-Wall Street rhetoric by having Citibank appoint his cabinet, and championing a Heritage / GOP healthcare plan, Obamacare.<br /><br />And third, appearing to give the go-ahead on the Dakota Access Pipeline -- the idee fixe du jour of the prog Left.<br /><br />It's bad enough for them that Obama won't be able to organize anything once out of office. If now even the progs are starting to curse his legacy, Trump has free rein to go after Obama's legacy when it's over.<br /><br />And when he says, "Gee folks, I used to believe that Obama was born in this country, but new evidence has persuaded me otherwise," the progs won't be able to slam him since they've already disavowed Obama, more or less.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-49087289026511424812016-11-12T03:47:27.061-05:002016-11-12T03:47:27.061-05:00Another self-defeating plan from the Michael Moore...Another self-defeating plan from the Michael Moore wing is to primary the corporatist Dems with prog Dems, so that the winner can go on to fight, obstruct, and defeat Trump.<br /><br />The contradiction is wanting an adversarial stance toward the other party -- the point is simply for Team Us to defeat Team Them.<br /><br />OK, then it won't be the progs -- they share too much common ground with Trump. It would have to be identity politics, corporate globalism, and neo-con warhawks. That's who the nemesis is in an apocalyptic battle between Trump and the Dems.<br /><br />We just saw how that approach worked out, but if the goal is to do battle against the other team, that's who will continue to represent Team Dem.<br /><br />The only way for the progs to win primaries is for them to take an accommodating stance toward the other team. Since the other team controls the entire government and has the only energized demographic base, we aren't in a position to make demands, so let's just work as hard as we can on the common ground topics like trade, war, corruption, trustbusting, leaving entitlements, infrastructure, re-industrialization, etc.<br /><br />The Dem primaries would be why I am the best candidate to work with the other side on the major issues, while still trying to push for environmentalism, etc. at a secondary level and perhaps at least get some bread crumbs there after cooperating on the major issues.<br /><br />Clearly the partisan warfare mindset is still the prevailing one, so whether Michael Moore understands it or not, his desire to fight Trump uber alles means that the progs will never have any place in the Dem party.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-84263848332584943782016-11-12T03:25:10.789-05:002016-11-12T03:25:10.789-05:00Dems get 1/3 of their votes from blacks and Latino...Dems get 1/3 of their votes from blacks and Latinos. If they really believe in affirmative action, ALL Dem front groups such as Slate, Vox, Bezos Post, humanities departments, liberal think tanks etc should be OVER 1/3 black and Latino.<br /><br />Slate for example is just 7% black and Latino (and its sole Latino employee doesn't even have a writing position). http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/slate_fare/2016/11/how_slate_staffers_are_voting.html<br /><br />But dweeby virtue-signaling whites know that hiring that many blacks and Latinos would force them to confront inconvenient truths. So they virtue-signal ever louder, hoping it will be somebody else who has to integrate.<br /><br />Let's stir up all kinds of minority awareness and resentment against all segregated hipster prog enclaves.Fiddlesticksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-7254994708321890322016-11-12T02:25:44.616-05:002016-11-12T02:25:44.616-05:00well at least he's back on twitter calling out...well at least he's back on twitter calling out the protesters. that's somethinglexie88https://www.blogger.com/profile/02193817657084020002noreply@blogger.com