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For the most part, they were educated before grade inflation(more so early Xers). Grade inflation, BTW, is more associated with cocooning. \u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EActually, the scene I was referring to wasn\u0026#39;t about the students\u0026#39; studies\/grades. It was about their apathy towards strident Boomers (represented by the frustrated teacher) lecturing Gen X youth especially after the Boomers made such a mess in their own youths. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe movie is basically about how a group of Gen X teens react to one of their own murdering a girl. It paints a fairly convincing picture of the anxiety, boredom and jadedness that Gen X teens dealt with. Amid the broken homes and chemicals the teens seem to be lost, too uncertain and insecure to really do much at all. The director based some of the characters and situations on his own experiences, which the director of Dazed and Confused also did.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAlso, I still question labeling X-ers as idealistic in comparison to Boomers. Most X-ers are resigned to the world being a perpetually f-ed up mess. Boomers on the other hand keep on insisting that they\u0026#39;ve got all kinds of ways to fix stuff. Never mind the fact that the Boomers broke so much stuff to begin with."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/6310217617937811550"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/6310217617937811550"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413684183602#c6310217617937811550","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Feryl"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1329189074"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"8:03 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2255423669903381076"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-18T19:26:22.849-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-18T19:26:22.849-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"BTW, Strauss and Howe mentioned briefly in their b..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"BTW, Strauss and Howe mentioned briefly in their book that military higher-ups considered Gen X to be the best soldiers.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI don\u0026#39;t agree wtih everything that STrauss and Howe say abuot Gen X - they classify them as a \u0026quot;Nomad\u0026quot;, wild generation, which I believe applies more to the Discos - but that tidbit is worth noticing."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/2255423669903381076"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/2255423669903381076"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413681982849#c2255423669903381076","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Curtis"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-618697695"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"7:26 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-56520708494819823"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-18T19:16:55.575-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-18T19:16:55.575-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;a stereotypically idealistic, naive Boomer t..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;a stereotypically idealistic, naive Boomer teacher basically throws a fit over how detached and unmotivated his Gen X students are.\u0026quot;\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThat is because Gen Xers had much harder grading standards applied to them.  For the most part, they were educated before grade inflation(more so early Xers).  Grade inflation, BTW, is more associated with cocooning.  \u003Cbr \/\u003E \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIt seems that the Boomers themselves were even less serious about education, as well as the Disco Generation.  for the Boomers(early Boomers), college was for political activity and participating in the counterculture.  For the Disco Generation(late Boomers), college was a party.  In Fast Times at Ridgemont High, high school is a big party; its mentioned off-handedly that Phoebe Cates\u0026#39; character is dating a parapsychology professor, which says a lot about college at the time.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe Xers seemed to take college more seriously.  They were stereotyped in the 90s as pursuing liberal arts degrees, and taking their careers less seriously.  This is partly why I believe Xers are idealistic - they were just as into ideas as the Boomers, just more cooperative and less aggressive in trying to \u0026quot;change the world\u0026quot;.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/56520708494819823"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/56520708494819823"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413681415575#c56520708494819823","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Curtis"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-618697695"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"7:16 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2048507832415060902"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-18T10:05:44.053-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-18T10:05:44.053-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"By the way, in terms of Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Horror..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"By the way, in terms of Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Horror Star Wars, Halloween, Indiana Jones, Alien, Conan, Excalibur the list goes on mop the floor with the dull camp that was produced in the 50\u0026#39;s-early 70\u0026#39;s. Early Boomer nostalgia typically goes back to pop music where the gap in entertainment value (and yes Virginia, artistic value and emotional resonance) isn\u0026#39;t as stunningly obvious.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThere\u0026#39;s a reason that the films of the later 70\u0026#39;s-mid 80\u0026#39;s are still pillars of each studio\u0026#39;s back catalog. How many films of the 50\u0026#39;s\/60\u0026#39;s or the 90\u0026#39;s\/2000\u0026#39;s will anyone care about 40 years from now?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/2048507832415060902"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/2048507832415060902"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413648344053#c2048507832415060902","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Feryl"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1329189074"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"10:05 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8659017072012872036"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-18T09:50:30.142-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-18T09:50:30.142-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026#39;Retrospectives? Dazed and Confused, which lat..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026#39;Retrospectives? Dazed and Confused, which late Boomers say is fairly accurate.\u0026#39;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EBack in the VHS rental era, my brother and me rented D \u0026amp; C. My dad, a \u0026#39;60 birth saw some of it and it did seem to resonate. When I first saw the movie years ago I didn\u0026#39;t really think about how the teens of the late 70\u0026#39;s-early 80\u0026#39;s grew up in comparison to the 60\u0026#39;s-early 70\u0026#39;s loudmouths and the later 80\u0026#39;s-90\u0026#39;s whatever generation. That probably has been overlooked. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EMaybe because that mini cohort has that sorta, just there personality that doesn\u0026#39;t spark much interest. And they themselves aren\u0026#39;t the type to beat other people over the head with nostalgia. We\u0026#39;ve all heard endless early Boomer praise of the culture of the 60\u0026#39;s-early 70\u0026#39;s with very little defense of the later 70\u0026#39;s disco\/arena rock\/high concept fantasy era that early Boomers resented for being escapist, soulless(i.e. unpretentious) culture that they were getting too old and self absorbed to appreciate. It\u0026#39;s frustrating to hear older Boomers or younger useful idiots who takes cues from early Boomers claim that Star Wars and MTV ruined western art forever. Enough already. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPhantasm is a real cool movie that Agnostic (or anyone else interested in the late 70\u0026#39;s) should see if he hasn\u0026#39;t already. It works well as both a surreal horror\/adventure and also as an unpretentious period piece (it was low budget with amateur\/inexperienced cast and crew). The director was in his early 20\u0026#39;s I believe."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/8659017072012872036"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/8659017072012872036"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413647430142#c8659017072012872036","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Feryl"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1329189074"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"9:50 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-1438391264123257725"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T23:08:40.568-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T23:08:40.568-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;What it was like growing up in the \u0026#39;70s\u0026..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;What it was like growing up in the \u0026#39;70s\u0026quot; is one of the great unexamined historical \/ pop cultural topics. You hear a lot about the \u0026#39;50s, \u0026#39;60s, and early \u0026#39;70s, then... the coming-of-age theme doesn\u0026#39;t pick up again until Family Ties, Back to the Future, Weird Science, etc.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EJust from watching popular movies and TV shows, you\u0026#39;d have a decent idea of what the Silent Gen was like as youngsters, and likewise for the early Boomers. Gen X\u0026#39;s adolescence is well documented and preserved. But what about the late Boomers?\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ETV shows -- basically none. Eight Is Enough looks like the only show that would\u0026#39;ve focused on them, though most of the actors weren\u0026#39;t actually late Boomers. I haven\u0026#39;t seen it, and wouldn\u0026#39;t know how accurate it was anyway.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EMovies -- Carrie and Halloween. There are no teen comedy or drama movies centered on late Boomers (Meatballs?), only a couple of horror movies.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ERetrospectives? Dazed and Confused, which late Boomers say is fairly accurate. And That \u0026#39;70s Show, which I haven\u0026#39;t heard them praise for accuracy. It seems more like that awful \u0026#39;80s retro show The Goldbergs -- the tone and behavior is entirely contemporary, and only the set decoration, costume, and make-up is how it used to be.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI think after the overload of youth counter-culture during the late \u0026#39;60s and early \u0026#39;70s, everyone had had enough of young people for awhile. Most of \u0026#39;70s pop culture is skewed heavily toward the mature rather than the coming-of-age.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThat was also the beginning of the Me Generation focusing more on their own affairs and less on what their kids were up to. So, both at the grassroots and the mass media levels, there was little supervision of young people. Most of it will go down the memory hole, since few of the late Boomers themselves have passed on their oral history.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EOne exception is the graphic novel My Friend Dahmer by Derf Backderf, who went to high school with the serial killer before he had totally snapped but when he was already very clearly out-of-it and nobody in grown-up world had noticed, let alone tried to do anything about him. He keeps a blog with updates and additions about being a teenager in the era of Carrie and Halloween.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIt was recommended to me by a late Boomer who swore by its accuracy, and from what little else I\u0026#39;ve gleaned of the period from pop culture, it does feel familiar.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EYouth culture was as unsupervised at the lowest level as it continued to be during the \u0026#39;80s, but later there was a concern at the national \/ mass media level, and also at the civic \/ community level about the troubled youths of today, save the children, and so on. You didn\u0026#39;t see that during the \u0026#39;70s, so the late Boomers were even less on the radar of anyone who might stabilize their lives, and so had no one they could turn to pro-actively."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/1438391264123257725"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/1438391264123257725"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413608920568#c1438391264123257725","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"agnostic"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/12967177967469961883"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"31","height":"21","src":"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-2_-zQZakgrs\/U5xd0YxzTaI\/AAAAAAAAClY\/-CBGpc-gCk0\/s220\/hellomarylou.jpg"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-2138581357"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"11:08 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8471372597564875676"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T21:00:23.732-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T21:00:23.732-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"When I was young and first heard these bands, I te..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"When I was young and first heard these bands, I tended to prefer Alice in Chains \u0026amp; Soundgarden to Pearl Jam \u0026amp; Screaming Trees because they were more metal. I also dug Nirvana because they were the closest thing to punk I could hear on the radio. It never occurred to me there was an age gap between them, I thought of them as all belonging to the same cohort (although the later post-grunge bands were another story).\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI came across a \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/acidemic.blogspot.com\/2013\/08\/the-tick-tockable-initiation-phantasm.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003Ereview\u003C\/a\u003E of Phantasm you might be interested in, as it delves into what it was like to be a kid in the 70s and how things have changed now (he jokingly blames video rental for modern overprotection of kids). You should be warned he is an enthusiast of psychedelics and seems to write via vomitting his brain on the screen."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/8471372597564875676"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/8471372597564875676"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413601223732#c8471372597564875676","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"TGGP"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/entitledtoanopinion.wordpress.com"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-896013354"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"9:00 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-1759062244261052853"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T18:36:27.726-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T18:36:27.726-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Besides diseases, there were a lot of building col..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Besides diseases, there were a lot of building collapses, construction accidents and fires at the turn of the century.  The infrastructure rotted throughout the Victorian era, and when the culture became more active and outgoing, it began collapsing.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/6266485051806020143\/comments\/default\/1759062244261052853"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/6266485051806020143\/comments\/default\/1759062244261052853"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/todays-immigrants-are-revolutionizing.html?showComment=1413592587726#c1759062244261052853","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Curtis"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/todays-immigrants-are-revolutionizing.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-6266485051806020143","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/6266485051806020143","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-618697695"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"6:36 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-801733939502841150"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T14:29:59.224-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T14:29:59.224-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;a stereotypically idealistic, naive Boomer t..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;a stereotypically idealistic, naive Boomer teacher basically throws a fit over how detached and unmotivated his Gen X students are.\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThose teachers wasted the \u0026#39;80s waiting for their burst of cleansing synchronicity, but it never came. They had to wait for \u0026#39;91-\u0026#39;93 for the hysteria over multiculturalism, AIDS, date rape, etc.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;Not as preachy and smug as early Boomers but also not as afflicted by corrosive cynicism as X-ers.\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe late Boomers spent their entire formative years in outgoing \/ rising-crime times, from their birth circa 1960 through the end of their 20s circa 1990. They don\u0026#39;t bear the stamp of the cocooning eras of the Midcentury or the Nineties and after.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAnd a good deal of their upbringing was during the egalitarian phase of the status-striving \/ inequality cycle. They turned into the yuppies, and cluster closer to the early Boomers on economic matters (laissez-faire), but were at least partly shaped by the norms of playing yourself down and accommodating others when they were children."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/801733939502841150"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/801733939502841150"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413577799224#c801733939502841150","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"agnostic"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/12967177967469961883"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"31","height":"21","src":"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-2_-zQZakgrs\/U5xd0YxzTaI\/AAAAAAAAClY\/-CBGpc-gCk0\/s220\/hellomarylou.jpg"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-2138581357"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"2:29 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-6540246368058124336"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T13:20:28.532-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T13:20:28.532-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026#39;My friends and I hated the lame alternative, ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026#39;My friends and I hated the lame alternative, post-grunge, or whatever it\u0026#39;s called music that defined the mid-\u0026#39;90s through the early 2000s.\u0026#39;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI hear ya on that. That era of whine about everything instead of, you know, actually write and play in interesting riff or melody sucked big time. I guess I half tolerated some of it maybe to fit in but I\u0026#39;m not sure I ever really enjoyed it. Not when I\u0026#39;d already heard and enjoyed the more adroit, less pretentious music made by Boomers in pop cultures last golden age, the 80\u0026#39;s.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EDoes anyone think that the early 60\u0026#39;s late Boomers are kind of a best of both worlds mini generation? Not as preachy and smug as early Boomers but also not as afflicted by corrosive cynicism as X-ers. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI don\u0026#39;t think you can really blame Gen X for having such a shitty attitude about things when they spent their formative years surrounded by the byproducts of the Me Generation\u0026#39;s hedonism and narcissism. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThere\u0026#39;s a \u0026#39;85 movie, the River\u0026#39;s Edge, that\u0026#39;s about Gen X teens that I found to pretty accurate. The bored, stoned teens in the movie barely notice that one of their friends is a total psycho. That character has a revealing scene where he says something like, \u0026#39;I\u0026#39;ve got this philosophy, you\u0026#39;re born, you do things and then you die\u0026#39;. Kurt Cobain would approve.\u003Cbr \/\u003EThat movie also has good scene where a stereotypically idealistic, naive Boomer teacher basically throws a fit over how detached and unmotivated his Gen X students are. The teacher just doesn\u0026#39;t get how the latest generation of kids doesn\u0026#39;t seem to a give a damn about anything, whereas the Boomers were so driven to change everything. Which they did, for good or for ill.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIn terms of John Hughes movies, I think the oldest \u0026#39;teen\u0026#39; cast member of the Breakfast club was Judd Nelson who was born in 1959. It\u0026#39;s not surprising that he got the role of the cockiest character in the film. In contrast, the much younger Anthony Micheal Hall (1968 birth) got to play the nerd. Nelson\u0026#39;s on set Boomer hell raising almost got him fired."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/6540246368058124336"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/6540246368058124336"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413573628532#c6540246368058124336","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Feryl"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1329189074"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"1:20 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-5964188355243177469"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T12:56:12.849-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T12:56:12.849-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I think \u0026quot;everyone is gay\u0026quot; was just a thr..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I think \u0026quot;everyone is gay\u0026quot; was just a throwaway provocation with no real meaning.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EREM went full emo, as did the Chili Peppers, but back in the \u0026#39;80s and early \u0026#39;90s they were cool. Most of the rock songs that I still enjoy from the early \u0026#39;90s are from bands that were primarily or entirely late Boomers, and had already been playing and recording in the \u0026#39;80s -- REM, Chili Peppers, Soul Asylum, U2, Counting Crows (for \u0026quot;Mr. Jones\u0026quot; only), Cracker (not as epic as Camper Van Beethoven, though), and above all the Gin Blossoms.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ENew Miserable Experience is one of the greatest rock albums ever, and was released as late as \u0026#39;92. Only the singer in that band was an early X-er.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAnother half-and-half group in the alt-rock scene of the early \u0026#39;90s was the Breeders. \u0026quot;Cannonball\u0026quot; isn\u0026#39;t the coolest song ever, but it\u0026#39;s catchy, upbeat, and irreverent (not ironic). Which is more than you can say for the X-er bands that dominated in the mid-\u0026#39;90s and after -- Live, Beck, Better Than Ezra, Bush, Foo Fighters, etc."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/5964188355243177469"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/5964188355243177469"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413572172849#c5964188355243177469","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"agnostic"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/12967177967469961883"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"31","height":"21","src":"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-2_-zQZakgrs\/U5xd0YxzTaI\/AAAAAAAAClY\/-CBGpc-gCk0\/s220\/hellomarylou.jpg"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-2138581357"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"12:56 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-3757865252059051419"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T11:48:59.322-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T11:48:59.322-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Part of the theory is that cocooning psychological..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u003Ci\u003EPart of the theory is that cocooning psychologically damages the younger generations, the ones that mature during the crime decrease.\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESee I differ in that I think that I think very sharp, fast change, whether of the sort where people are socially withdrawing or where the environment appears to be getting more dangerous, can\u0026#39;t be good for the mental balance of the young either way. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAlthough a protective, withdrawn environment is probably going to be worse than an environment which seems to be getting more dangerous but people are socially connected.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI don\u0026#39;t really believe in the idea that dangerous environments encourage people to become pyschologically stronger and work together - maybe to a certain extent, but it seems that people, at least modern people, when it happens fast, become overwhelmed to the degree that they just start to withdraw, drop trust, etc.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EChanges in violent crime rates, as I see it, are mostly just a consequence of a shift to a more outgoing disposition that has built up during the tail of peaceful but boring times where people have stopped getting more paranoid (particularly in generations that have their formative years in these times). I don\u0026#39;t really think people respond to violent crime by becoming more cohesive and daring.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ELook at Generation X - they have some strong qualities compared to complacent, enthusiastic, go-with-the-flow, positivity embracing Boomers, but these mostly seem to me to end looking like varying kind of distancing self and other skepticism, not really full blown inabilities to cope emotionally in groups, but exaggerated beyond a useful degree.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIf you compare early Boomers who grew up during a falling violence period to early Generation X who grew up during a rising violence period, I don\u0026#39;t really think the early X come out as more psychologically healthy.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EProbably the most psychologically healthy people grow up during slow rates of change, whether higher violence, higher outgoingness or lower violence, lower outgoingness, because stability of the environment is more important."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/3757865252059051419"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/3757865252059051419"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413568139322#c3757865252059051419","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"M"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-489083118"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"11:48 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-7803795183101541689"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-17T11:44:07.946-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-17T11:44:07.946-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Thank you for your blog.  Maybe it is my age but I..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Thank you for your blog.  Maybe it is my age but I can listen to Nirvana but not enjoy Nirvana.  I was never a big Nirvana fan but they are just too much of a downer for me now.  The contrast musically with the E Street band during the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony was striking.  The E Street band just seemed younger and more energetic then the Nirvana crowd.  The E Street band had the swagger.  Curious what you make of lyric \u0026quot;Everyone is gay\u0026quot; in the Nirvana song.  REM hasn\u0026#39;t aged well either in my opinion."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/7803795183101541689"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/7803795183101541689"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413567847946#c7803795183101541689","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"mark"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/02083316354675176699"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img2.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1993225234"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"11:44 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2920548685537993433"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-16T23:36:21.652-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-16T23:36:21.652-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Jeff Spicoli is not a Gen X character (talk about ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Jeff Spicoli is not a Gen X character (talk about a lack of introspection). He belongs to the late \u0026#39;70s and early \u0026#39;80s, not the mid-to-late \u0026#39;80s. He\u0026#39;s a *late* Boomer -- no one lumped all Boomers into a single category.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EWho knew that Jon Bon Jovi, James Hetfield, Axl Rose, and Bret Michaels were Gen X?\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EYou\u0026#39;re trying to link the late Boomers in the post to Gen X because they became famous for what was considered a Gen X phenomenon. But when you scratch beneath the surface, it turns out there were two distinct flavors of grunge, stemming from two distinct generations of musicians."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/2920548685537993433"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/2920548685537993433"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413524181652#c2920548685537993433","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"agnostic"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/12967177967469961883"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"31","height":"21","src":"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-2_-zQZakgrs\/U5xd0YxzTaI\/AAAAAAAAClY\/-CBGpc-gCk0\/s220\/hellomarylou.jpg"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-2138581357"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"11:36 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-1183454927842365387"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-16T22:01:46.648-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-16T22:01:46.648-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Strauss and Howe\u0026#39;s 1943-60 range for the Boome..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Strauss and Howe\u0026#39;s 1943-60 range for the Boomers makes more sense culturally than the orthodox 1946-64 definition.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAll of the musicians you named are Xers."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/1183454927842365387"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/8868194643859040902\/comments\/default\/1183454927842365387"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html?showComment=1413518506648#c1183454927842365387","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/the-generational-divide-among-grunge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8868194643859040902","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/8868194643859040902","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1832264806"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"10:01 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-6171593165036601219"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-16T08:06:40.963-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-16T08:06:40.963-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"this is why I believe cocooning may represent dysf..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"this is why I believe cocooning may represent dysfunction rather than a natural cycle of human history.  for one, its irregular, and for two, it causes people to become dysfunctional.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003Ethe cycling between equality and inequality, on the other hand, seems even, changing every 50-60 years, and does not make the younger generations dysfunctional."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/6171593165036601219"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/6171593165036601219"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413468400963#c6171593165036601219","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Curtis"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-618697695"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"8:06 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-770017719940672343"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-16T07:57:17.267-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-16T07:57:17.267-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;\nNot sure mental illness is involved, I thin..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003ENot sure mental illness is involved, I think it\u0026#39;s mostly like predator-prey dynamics like agnostic says, only with actual predators taking a peripheral role (but they\u0026#39;re there for sure).\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPart of the theory is that cocooning psychologically damages the younger generations, the ones that mature during the crime decrease.  "},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/770017719940672343"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/770017719940672343"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413467837267#c770017719940672343","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Curtis"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-618697695"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"7:57 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2822616673854606959"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-12T13:43:18.264-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-12T13:43:18.264-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;In fact, in a culture of honor the man who d..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;In fact, in a culture of honor the man who defiles a woman is coerced into marrying and supporting her (contra the Men\u0026#39;s Rights delusion that forced child support is something new and anathema to the hard-as-fuck olden times,\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EOld Testament, I believe.  So, if you can convince America to return to its Old Testament roots, Men\u0026#39;s Rights Activism will be unnecessary.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;or that there used to be a sex-blind standard -- it was always the woman\u0026#39;s purity that mattered).\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EYes, but the purity of the woman mattered the most to the men who both ruled, and saw their sons as ruling after they had gone.  So once you convince America to return to patriarchy, Men\u0026#39;s Rights Activism will be unnecessary.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;The alternative is getting killed or run out of town by the woman\u0026#39;s male kinsmen.\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESo once you restore family unity apart from the state and the ability of that family to take extralegal actions with little to no expectation of punitive consequences, Men\u0026#39;s Right\u0026#39;s Activism will be unnecessary.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;This is all to restore purity as much as possible, not to alter his intentions, or her consent (she also has no say in getting married to him).\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESo once you restore a society-wide public and legal representation of the importance of female purity over female consent, Men\u0026#39;s Rights Activism will be unnecessary.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI just get the strange feeling that anyone who makes knee-jerk condemnations of MRAs is either a liberal fully invested in the destruction of his society who recognizes them as a threat, or a conservative too worried about what the cool kids in HR will say about him to go for broke on what he really wants.  I WANT SEX or I WANT RIGHTS is at least an actionable demand, but I\u0026#39;ve seen very little systematic I WANT PATRIARCHY or I WANT ADHERENCE TO OLD TESTAMENT LAW or I WANT UNANIMOUS SOCIAL RECOGNITION OF THE FOLLY OF ALLOWING FEMALE DECISION-MAKING coming from you or a lot of the so-called secular reactionaries."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/2822616673854606959"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/2822616673854606959"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413142998264#c2822616673854606959","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Dystopia Max"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.mypostingcareer.com"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1061111842"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"1:43 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8272437381663107468"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-12T03:22:59.924-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-12T03:22:59.924-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Curtis - Going back, it appears more irregular in ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Curtis - \u003Ci\u003EGoing back, it appears more irregular in the 19th century and before. For instance, crime is reported as falling for most of the 19th century in America.\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ECurtis - \u003Ci\u003EI\u0026#39;m not sure if the cocooning is a natural part of human affairs. Maybe some kind of dysfunction caused by overpopulation - John Calhoun\u0026#39;s experiments with mice showed that overpopulation caused young mice to become asocial.\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EYeah, can be slower. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ENot sure mental illness is involved, I think it\u0026#39;s mostly like predator-prey dynamics like agnostic says, only with actual predators taking a peripheral role (but they\u0026#39;re there for sure). \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPeople become outgoing and open so get into more incidental conflict, so begin to perceive the world as more dangerous so get less outgoing and open, so get less incidental conflict, so perceive the world as less dangerous, so get more outgoing and open, etc. (with an adjustment that I think the Millennial generation tends to view other people as not that dangerous really but has some poor \/ fragile social, risktaking and emotional ability thing going on from their developmental environment which still keeps their preference for being outgoing low).\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThat all seems very natural but could be that urban living accelerates these cultural patterns agnostic\u0026#39;s noticed so they\u0026#39;re faster and maybe deeper \/ more extreme? \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPrevious cultures maybe don\u0026#39;t have as much breakneck generational change as smoother clines.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EMight be due to mental illness or something like that causing overly extreme reactions (e.g. people become unnaturally outgoing then unnaturally closed off), and mental illness correlates with urbanization and dense living. Or there could be other explanations - e.g. one pattern in the past was for urban cultures to be replaced by fresh influx of young people from the country - internal and external migration. And people may not locally have always been on the same cultural epicycle, we forget how isolated a lot of the world used to be, at least for poor people). So it might be that cultural \u0026quot;learning\u0026quot; that changes attitudes (in one direction or another) was slowed down by this.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThat cycle of naivety \/ caution or outgoing \/ cocooning could change on a 2 or 3 generation scale in slower moving \/ slower cultural learning cultures."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/8272437381663107468"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/8272437381663107468"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413105779924#c8272437381663107468","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"M"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-489083118"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"3:22 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-7247625827320758133"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-11T20:35:36.197-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-11T20:35:36.197-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I\u0026#39;ve always thought that taking advantage of a..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I\u0026#39;ve always thought that taking advantage of a drunk girl, even if she is coming onto you, is a shithead move. But I thought the big issue was when they are \u003Ci\u003Eboth\u003C\/i\u003E drunk. Even in that situation the guy always seems to be the only one responsible."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/7247625827320758133"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/7247625827320758133"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413081336197#c7247625827320758133","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Robert What?"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/03863449539859132763"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img2.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-555100561"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"8:35 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-9185696872019215654"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-11T18:01:15.462-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-11T18:01:15.462-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I\u0026#39;m not sure if the cocooning is a natural par..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I\u0026#39;m not sure if the cocooning is a natural part of human affairs.  Maybe some kind of dysfunction caused by overpopulation - John Calhoun\u0026#39;s experiments with mice showed that overpopulation caused young mice to become asocial.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe philosopher Nietszche argued that cocooning(\u0026quot;Apollonian\u0026quot;) culture is fairly recent in human history, not happening until Socrates, but maybe he was wrong."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/9185696872019215654"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/9185696872019215654"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413072075462#c9185696872019215654","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Curtis"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1959458312"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"6:01 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-8931679619542861058"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-11T15:43:41.028-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-11T15:43:41.028-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;Supposedly violent crime and public behaviou..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;Supposedly violent crime and public behaviours follow a more or less 30 year epicycle, although it\u0026#39;s more open vs closed generations initially. We\u0026#39;ll see if this is actually the case.\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIts followed this pattern in the 20th century.  Going back, it appears more irregular in the 19th century and before.  For instance, crime is reported as falling for most of the 19th century in America.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E  However, that may have been because of poor methods for reporting crime, or something like that.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/8931679619542861058"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/8931679619542861058"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413063821028#c8931679619542861058","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Curtis"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1959458312"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"3:43 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-4011577998073634841"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-11T08:39:57.800-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-11T08:39:57.800-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I wasn\u0026#39;t specifically referring to a particula..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I wasn\u0026#39;t specifically referring to a particular generation, I\u0026#39;m talking about people of all ages becoming more stoic and less naive in the face of bad things after a sustained period of greater non foreigner\/non terrorist perpetrated violence. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ENaturally some gens will have an easier time adjusting; I think that the 1990-2005 cohort will have it a bit rougher since they didn\u0026#39;t deal with wildness (drugs, violence, abuse etc.) at all in comparison to a fair amount of people born in the 80\u0026#39;s. the Post 2005 births will have the benefit of adolescence (in later births, their childhood and adolescence) of encountering increasing wildness within 5-10 years if they aren\u0026#39;t already.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAlso people will lose interest in talking heads psycho analyzing dirt bags. In the Warriors from 1979 the only motivation given to the villian Luther is when he says \u0026quot;I just like doing stuff like that\u0026quot;. Not like the long winded pseudo intellectual discussions about motives we\u0026#39;ve been having regarding real and fictional villains since the early 90\u0026#39;s.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI like M\u0026#39;s observation that the mistrustful Gen Xer\u0026#39;s basically halted the outgoing, chaotic period of the 70\u0026#39;s-early 90\u0026#39;s because they didn\u0026#39;t have the temperament to put themselves in volatile situations like the Boomers did. 70\u0026#39;s and 80\u0026#39;s movies sure featured a lot of bar brawls. Roadhouse (\u0026#39;89) basically is one long bar fight with the mullets flying as fast as the roundhouse kicks."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/4011577998073634841"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/4011577998073634841"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413038397800#c4011577998073634841","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Feryl"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1329189074"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"8:39 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-3749790285651820149"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-11T03:13:11.379-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-11T03:13:11.379-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Curtis This applies more to the Late Boomers. Gex ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Curtis \u003Ci\u003EThis applies more to the Late Boomers. Gex X were more idealistic, IMO.\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EDon\u0026#39;t see how that description fits the Late Boomers very well, but X may be idealistic in some ways. I wouldn\u0026#39;t shit on tough times (economic or crime) making people more idealistic in some ways. I\u0026#39;m thinking about how their idealism translates in idealism in public behaviour.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIf Gen X are idealistic, it seems more like \u0026quot;My parents got divorced, and it was horrible. Ideally, children wouldn\u0026#39;t have to go through divorce, so ideally I don\u0026#39;t get married\u0026quot; or \u0026quot;These freaks \/ mainstream people don\u0026#39;t meet my ideals, so I\u0026#39;m not even going to approach them\u0026quot;. Probably tuned up beyond a realistic level. Very much to be the sort of idealism, tending towards harsh or avoidant idealism, not a naive optimism where people go out and take chances. X are tight and loyal with whatever Frat Pack style small group they\u0026#39;ve got.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI don\u0026#39;t think Gen X were like this as much when the Boomers were still young and calling the tune in music, film and nightlife, and there was more expectation to live their lives in the open, but it seems really striking how this took hold as soon as they began to become tastemakers and role models in the late 80s through the 90s.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe GI Generation was seen by the Boomers as grey, cold, old men much more than Silent by X or Boomers by Millennials (Silent seem like they seen by Boomers as frazzled, repressed people missing out on life, not really mean old men?). I think it might be that way with X and \u0026quot;Z\u0026quot;. Thankfully they\u0026#39;ll both be relatively small generations so that\u0026#39;ll limit the cross generational outright culture warfare some (although it\u0026#39;ll have an ethnic twist with X being mostly White and Z being much more other).\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Ci\u003Eit still escapes me why we\u0026#39;re supposed to wait with anticipation the arrival of a new tough and street-wise generation\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESupposedly violent crime and public behaviours follow a more or less 30 year epicycle, although it\u0026#39;s more open vs closed generations initially. We\u0026#39;ll see if this is actually the case.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EYou\u0026#39;ll wait with anticipation for them if you liked the way of life and culture of such times (I\u0026#39;ve never lived through one really, not sure if I do)."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/3749790285651820149"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/19346366\/2247057994559421915\/comments\/default\/3749790285651820149"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html?showComment=1413018791379#c3749790285651820149","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"M"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/akinokure.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/when-girl-gets-taken-advantage-of.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2247057994559421915","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19346366/posts/default/2247057994559421915","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-489083118"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"3:13 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-3691093966215212431"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-10T23:26:45.013-06:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-10T23:26:45.013-06:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;When people start to toughen and wise up aga..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;When people start to toughen and wise up again\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI\u0026#39;ve been following the generational discourse on here for quite some time, but it still escapes me why we\u0026#39;re supposed to wait with anticipation the arrival of a new tough and street-wise generation.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EMoreover, there\u0026#39;s a sort of hubris that assumes that such a generation is right around the corner. I\u0026#39;ve said it again and again - but let everyone who makes such predictions be available ten years hence when the results are in. 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