tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post7999221017017408039..comments2024-03-28T21:56:51.675-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Russiagaters swell cable news safe space, destroy triggering social media sectoragnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-88389098073034582272018-07-28T12:15:14.562-04:002018-07-28T12:15:14.562-04:00The elites' may see a theoretical colonization...The elites' may see a theoretical colonization of Russia as away to solve their overproduction issues. A reconstruction and occupation of Russia will create plenty of opportunities for elite aspirants, whether it be as a military officer in an occupied Russia, as an entrepreneur creating a new energy industry around Russia's natural gas reserves, lawyers needed to help create a new democratic government for Russia.<br /><br />Liberal arts majors will also be able to get in on the action. You'll need plenty of social workers to help rebuild the country and educate the Russian people. Anthropologists and sociologists to do bureacratic research to help win over "hearts and minds", etc. This may be one reason why lifestyle strivers are pro-CIA and pro-invading Russia all of a sudden.<br /><br />This same idea may have been what the elites' had in mind when they invaded Iraq. I can remember my freshman year of college, Mideast affairs courses had invaded the liberal arts curriculum. In one course, I made some negative comment about Halliburton, and the professor said "Be careful, you may work for them some day", haha. Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-75438926912579930792018-07-28T06:06:45.856-04:002018-07-28T06:06:45.856-04:00During the shadowban on cons, the Chapo crew were ...During the shadowban on cons, the Chapo crew were as well, from what I observed anyway.<br /><br />I don't have an account, so I type the person's name into the search bar, it auto-completes with a list of possible accounts, and I click on the right one. It's always worked for anyone who isn't shadowbanned, and whenever someone does get shadowbanned, it doesn't work. This has happened over multiple cycles of banning and un-banning.<br /><br />I've never had a problem with lefties being shadowbanned, but some days or maybe a week after the Trump supporters were silenced, I noticed the same thing when I began typing in "cushbomb" into the search bar. Even typing it all the way, it came up empty. Typing "Matt Christman" also failed to give the right choice. Ditto for Will Menaker and ByYourLogic.<br /><br />Twitter must have added Bernie-type words to its red flag list, as it were.<br /><br />Strangely, Virgil Texas made it through the banning algorithm. He must not post enough red-flag words.<br /><br />I could still read their timelines, just had to hit "enter" after putting their names into the search bar, and click on their handle in the results. That's inconvenient and indirect enough to qualify as marginalizing / shadowbanning.<br /><br />At any rate, once the Trumpers were unbanned, so were the Chapo guys.<br /><br />Michael Tracey was also affected in that way.<br /><br />Daniel Larison's account still does not pop up when you type in his name.<br /><br />Especially when the 2020 primary season starts heating up, expect more of these de-platforming tactics to target the Bernie revolutionaries.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-15773289652839754232018-07-28T05:37:51.024-04:002018-07-28T05:37:51.024-04:00Sandernistas wising up to being next targets of de...Sandernistas wising up to being next targets of de-platforming :<br /><br />"I despise Alex Jones, but maybe banning people from social media on political grounds is a bad precedent."<br /><br />https://twitter.com/DougHenwood/status/1022934359341494274<br /><br />Replies focus on advocacy of violent or similar tactics, but it's not so much the tactics that the Establishment will de-platform them over.<br /><br />The whole status quo defense is not about non-violent vs. violent tactics, but about how the society is run. Advocating a radical up-ending of the neoliberal order is what gets you in the cross-hairs of the de-platformers.<br /><br />First for the Trumpian populists / nationalists.<br /><br />But now they're turning to the Bernie crowd, too. They were left alone at first for being fellow liberals on social-cultural issues, but those are no longer the main issues. It's class, empire, etc. And suddenly the Establishment believes in horseshoe theory -- especially after Ocasio-Cortez upset Crowley. Both policy extremes must be avoided.<br /><br />Add in the Russiagaters' new spin on the sins of the Kremlin -- before it was just hacking the election to benefit Trump. Now it's broader, to encompass the Bernie supporters as well -- Russia interfered to sow discord among Americans, make them distrust their institutions, hate the Establishment, and so on. And now Bernie is just as much a beneficiary of Putin's propaganda as Trump has been.<br /><br />And therefore, the rose avatars must be shadowbanned just as much as the Pepe avatars.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-22273965865491004672018-07-28T05:18:14.010-04:002018-07-28T05:18:14.010-04:00Here are the posts you're talking about :
htt...Here are the posts you're talking about :<br /><br />http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/11/they-didnt-get-it-wrong-goal-was.html<br /><br />http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-media-landscape-guide-to-coming.html<br /><br />It was not a difficult call to make, since the trend has been under way for some time. CNN's tone is so clinical and informational (just the facts), they have steadily been driven out by the purely emotional Fox and MSNBC, since both of those competitors started in the '90s.<br /><br />One thing I missed, though, was that MSNBC would jump on the Russiagate bandwagon. In the pre-inauguration stage, it was mainly CNN and BuzzFeed who were hyping up Russiagate, the Steele dossier, etc.<br /><br />Someone would have to look back, but I don't think MSNBC's panels were over 50% feds and spooks at the time. CNN has had a stronger affinity for involving the CIA, since both are interested in spreading the Establishment's preferred narrative. MSNBC was more for tribal validation of the liberals, not necessarily pumping out intel propaganda.<br /><br />In fact, someone on Twitter posted an old clip of the Maddow show from around 2009, and she's blasting the neo-cons, who she calls by that name. Why doesn't she do that anymore, when it would seem to be even more critical, given that her party is out of power and needs to blast the in-power neo-cons even more?<br /><br />It seems like the intel agencies hijacked MSNBC a little later than CNN on the Russiagate matter. Things were so topsy-turvy post-election, it might have taken them awhile to form a team, send a delegation to Phil Griffin, bring the hammer down on them, etc., to get them to not only play along, but allow a fed-and-spook boarding party to take over their behind-the-scenes programming and on-air talking heads.<br /><br />Or maybe it took until the General Flynn firing for the producers to pounce on Russiagate as an opportunity, or until Trump fired Comey, or something else. I'm not clear on when they flipped.<br /><br />At any rate, they've wedded the propaganda and tribal emotionalism approaches that used to distinguish CNN and MSNBC. Now MSNBC is your one-stop-shop for both. It's intel agency propaganda not to "correct the record" or "state facts," but to provide the narrative skeleton on top of which the tribal emotional flesh will bring the conspiracy theory to life.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-36670942942675144592018-07-28T01:02:11.774-04:002018-07-28T01:02:11.774-04:00"all housed in the hospital of MSNBC. Accordi..."all housed in the hospital of MSNBC. According to the latest ratings, it is the only cable news channel to show growth in viewers year-over-year, while their competitors are declining, across all time slots."<br /><br />Didn't you predict awhile back that MSNBC would do well, but CNN would flounder? Would be great to revisit in light of current events (Russiagate).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-47883117355712421962018-07-27T22:37:41.884-04:002018-07-27T22:37:41.884-04:00"merely seeing someone's avatar and name ..."merely seeing someone's avatar and name reminds you of who the person supported in 2016, even if the content of their post is totally apolitical and mundane. "Another great day for grillin'! -- Margaritaville1957" "Yeah, and we ought to throw your ass on the grill for putting Putin's puppet in the White House -- Nursety Woman [blue wave emoji]"."<br /><br />Hahaha!!! I'm totally slayed! And "Nursety", yuk yuk yuk yuk....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-88885115123798006252018-07-27T20:28:40.287-04:002018-07-27T20:28:40.287-04:00The RR of the 1980's and 90's widely diffe...The RR of the 1980's and 90's widely differed on the "inciting incident" of Satanic cultural liberalism. Depending on who you asked, it happened in the 60's, or 50's, or 30's, blah blah blah. It's Hollywood, or it was that pesky FDR, etc.<br /><br />In the same vein, today's neo-liberal Left, in the face of growing terror that they're losing their grip on at least 50% of the population, is now filibustering anyone who will listen (usually their fellow "centrist" libroids) about the inciting incident of today's trends. Was it uncontrolled internet activity? Fox News/Rupert Murdoch? Steve Bannon and Breitbart? The nests of traditionalist/nationalist dinos strewn about the landscape, who can't accept that the world "isn't theirs" anymore? Was it "impressionable" youngsters not being taught to respect Clintonite values in the 2000's and 2010's, ala Boomers and Gen X-ers not being taught to "respect" The Bible (the only true source of wisdom) in the 60's and 70's? Ought we go back to Rush Limbaugh and the America of 'Falling Down', the angry white male movement and the "culture war" of 1990's talk radio?Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-64027032688906619542018-07-27T20:13:11.545-04:002018-07-27T20:13:11.545-04:00Isn't the SWPL chimpout not unlike the Religio...Isn't the SWPL chimpout not unlike the Religious Right dust-up that happened in the mid-80's, then gradually faded away in the mid-late 90's?<br /><br />There's some uproarious non-sense from the 80's and early 90's on YouTube. Stuff like He-Man toys being "Satanic", with the (charlatan) talking heads being deadly earnest. No humor or self-awareness, at all.<br /><br />'Satanic Metal' from '83:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHF-E2KTXJc<br /><br />'Escaping Satan's Web' from '87:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKzae5Vl20E<br /><br />Most unintentionally funny news reports about metal:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKFawNgN7h8<br /><br />It dawned on me that the Religious Right chose to blame the cultural excesses of the Me Generation on "Satan", instead of on the shift to me-first ism that people really became aware of in the mid-80's, though we'd been building toward it since the mid-70's. They sensed it happening, but often didn't understand why it happened. Similarly, the shifting of the climate towards collective action and nationalism that began in the late 2000's, after the '08 crash, wasn't widely appreciated until 2016 (Brexit and Trump). And much like how the Religious Right missed the target by a mile, the Neo-liberal Left is now also missing the target by a mile.<br /><br />Great shifts in culture and politics don't happen because of some unseen evil hand guiding things for 10+ years, then suddenly becoming apparent. Strikingly, Jon Chait in recent analysis of Trump-Russia theories, mentioned (but didn't fully accept) the meme that Trump has been in cahoots with Russia, or some similar malevolent force, ever since he publicly spoke of politics in the late 1980's.<br /><br />Social conservatives badly played their hand in the 1980's, and found themselves a laughing stock 10-15 years later (amongst Gen X-ers and Millennials who hated the arrogant Silents and Boomers who did nothing to stop the debauching of our finances and economy, the Religious Right never had anything bad to say about trickle down economics). Likewise, the neo-liberal Left is too retarded to realize that they horribly refused to address the problems exposed by 2008, and as such today's young generations (Millennials and Z) are furious with Boomers and X-ers many of whom may perceive today's problems but have no understanding of how they came to be or how to fix them.<br /><br />The Religious Right is now almost completely irrelevant (since they proved to be of no use at stopping the me-1st train), and so too will the neo-liberals fade away because they were too clueless to hop on the collective action train.Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.com