tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post7392571009069201569..comments2024-03-29T11:47:06.499-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Canadian fags rap about bashing, remind New York of their depravityagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-28560826896805628032008-09-04T23:52:00.000-04:002008-09-04T23:52:00.000-04:00You say:, "is still marginalized, attacked, hated,...You say:<BR/><I>, "is still marginalized, attacked, hated, pushed down, violated, ignored, beaten, sometimes killed and often shunned -- even in New York City."<BR/><BR/>Well, I'll grant you "pushed down" and "violated," but I hardly see what straight people have to do with that.</I><BR/><BR/>So you deny that gay males have a greater risk of bias violence than straight white males? You honestly claim that homosexuals aren't discriminated against in housing, employment, and medical care? Are you joking here or do you really believe this rhetoric?<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>as identity politics is nothing more than whining and clamoring for an unfair slice of the pie</I><BR/><BR/>So fair employment is an unfair slice of the pie? Fair access to housing is an unfair slice? Civil Unions are unfair? Gay marriage? Hospital visitation rights, medical access, and freedom from fear are unfair slices of the pie?<BR/><BR/>I take it you are opposed to homosexual equality?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-89305603932404195542008-06-23T18:15:00.000-04:002008-06-23T18:15:00.000-04:00Yes, the high rate of STDs among gay males is the ...Yes, the high rate of STDs among gay males is the result of A) sexual networks and B) anal sex being inherently more conducive to transmission.<BR/><BR/>Promiscuity, per se, is unlikely a major source of STDs in black populations as well. More likely genetic vulnerabilities play a huge role. (with networks playing a large role too, at least in Africa)Jason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-72505912731733668022008-06-23T18:00:00.000-04:002008-06-23T18:00:00.000-04:00I choose my images very carefully, and "web" is th...I choose my images very carefully, and "web" is there for a reason: even if a straight guy has had 5 partners, none of these could have slept with each other, whereas the 5 partners of a gay guy could very well have.<BR/><BR/>Moreover, if a straight guy has had 20 partners, he's probably unusual, and the girls are thinking, "Well, I normally wouldn't give it up so easily, but he's just so _____." Therefore, these females are unlikely to have really slept around.<BR/><BR/>In contrast, the 20 partners of a gay guy aren't necessarily thinking, "Gee, I normally wouldn't give it up so quickly, but...." They've probably had 20 partners <I>themselves</I>.<BR/><BR/>Health organizations have recently conceded that AIDS was never going to make inroads in the straight population, unless they were needle-users. But why hasn't it even made inroads in the highly promiscuous straight male population? Again, that's where the web comes in.<BR/><BR/>You can think of it like a neural model, where your level of AIDS-like activity is the sum of the activities of all partner-nodes that are connected to you. For a promiscuous straight guy, the picture looks like a radiating star, and each node leading to him has very low activity.<BR/><BR/>For the gay guy, it looks like all possible connections are realized, kind of like epilepsy.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-33537479866345298332008-06-23T17:38:00.000-04:002008-06-23T17:38:00.000-04:00RE: Volokh. Yep, I recently discovered the same th...RE: Volokh. Yep, I recently discovered the same thing. But I don't know how he is getting those numbers from the General Social Survey. <BR/><BR/>When I looked into the same data set just a few weeks ago, I found that gay men and straight men had nearly identical partner numbers (identical median: 4, and identical mode: 1).<BR/><BR/>In contrast race differences were large.<BR/><BR/><B>Straight White males // Straight black males // Gay males:</B><BR/><BR/>Mean 35 // 61 // 42<BR/>Median 4 // 9 // 4<BR/>Mode 1 // 10 // 1<BR/><BR/>http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2008/05/gay-marriage-and-infidelity-people.htmlJason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-89777410204498313742008-06-23T17:10:00.000-04:002008-06-23T17:10:00.000-04:00In the late 80's, I knew a gay guy who came of age...In the late 80's, I knew a gay guy who came of age in the 70's. He said that the gay scene, pre-AIDS, was every bit as wild as depicted in books like "As the Band Played On" and the like. He said that much of the promiscuity shut down in the 80's exclusively because of AIDS (because it was fun and it would not have shut down for any other reason). <BR/><BR/>This guy happened to work in the medical field and was well aware of the STD infection rates in the gay community at the time. He also read the first papers that came out in the late 70's when SIV was discovered (the primate version of HIV). <BR/><BR/>He predicted that a human version of this disease would emerge and that it would largely wipe-out the gay community. He then became largely celibate in '79 and urged all of his "friends" to do the same. As you can guess, this went over like a lead balloon, and he was largely ostracized by the gay community.<BR/><BR/>Almost all of the people he knew from that time had died of AIDS by 1985 with him being the only survivor. <BR/><BR/>There is no question that the rampant promiscuity of the gay community in and of itself makes being gay a medical risk factor for STDs in general.kurt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/02101147267959016924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-42321288228968449052008-06-23T15:33:00.000-04:002008-06-23T15:33:00.000-04:00I would be remiss though if I didn't bring up Half...I would be remiss though if I didn't bring up Half Sigma's classic post <A HREF="http://www.halfsigma.com/2007/06/gay_sex_inheren.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.Thursdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13002311410445623799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-53093445458770634382008-06-23T11:53:00.000-04:002008-06-23T11:53:00.000-04:00Gay promiscuity these days isn't quite as bad as i...Gay promiscuity these days isn't quite as bad as it is sometimes made out to be, though there are certainly pockets of craziness still out there.<BR/><BR/>Eugene Volokh has analysis and data <A HREF="http://volokh.com/2003_05_18_volokh_archive.html#200329266" REL="nofollow">here</A>, <A HREF="http://volokh.com/2003_05_18_volokh_archive.html#200329572" REL="nofollow">here</A>, <A HREF="http://volokh.com/2003_05_18_volokh_archive.html#200329250" REL="nofollow">here</A>, and <A HREF="http://volokh.com/2003_05_18_volokh_archive.html#200332704" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>Of course, these are the post-AIDS numbers. Its quite possible that most gay men in the 70s were as rabidly promiscuous as they were thought to be. People do tend to respond at least somewhat to the incentive of not dying. There was also probably a selection effect among openly gay men in the 70s, with only the most unashamedly sexual men coming out. More conservative types probably only started coming out much later.Thursdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13002311410445623799noreply@blogger.com