tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post42387737321158214..comments2024-03-28T21:56:51.675-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Riots target squishy Democrats in (failed) attempt to amp up turnout, not Republicans to intimidate enemiesagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-69461832744219732322020-09-23T23:36:11.979-04:002020-09-23T23:36:11.979-04:00Threats work -- she's back! Goddamn, I may hav...Threats work -- she's back! Goddamn, I may have to vote Biden after all. If Aimee Terese is safely on Twitter from now until Election Day, I'll vote Biden. Otherwise, Trump.<br /><br />You can't keep a good woman down -- get fucked, libtard lawyers!<br /><br />Cancel student debt EXCEPT FOR law school!<br /><br />(Now <i>there's</i> a bipartisan, nation-unifying platform.)<br /><br />Time for a victory lap in our cyber-chariots!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQBF3a9m8Fsagnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-15701814119638677192020-09-23T17:45:26.167-04:002020-09-23T17:45:26.167-04:00I think they're reconciling themselves to the ...I think they're reconciling themselves to the loss of the Rust Belt. I think many Rust Belt voters are becoming disenfranchised, not voting for either party.<br /><br />I remember Peter Zeihan's old chart for "Post-Trump" political coalitions. Basically, for the Dems he listed: Greens("Yuppies"), Blacks, Gays, Single Women. That about sums it up - though as a demographic, single women are way more numerous than people realize. <br /><br />The key here is that union members aren't really voting for Republicans, either. Trump already gets basically all non-union working-class votes(categorized as "Populists"). For the Republican chart, Zeihan just lists "Populists" and Evangelicals.<br /><br />Catholic voters, Union members, Pro-Choicers, Hispanics(whom have long not voted) are all staying away from both parties.<br /><br /><br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-68498493660316590452020-09-23T15:17:50.355-04:002020-09-23T15:17:50.355-04:00I'll keep voting Trump until Twitter unbans Ai...I'll keep voting Trump until Twitter unbans Aimee Terese. I'm a single-issue non-partisan voter from a Rust Belt swing state. You hold our princess hostage, we'll hold the patronage flowing from the federal executive branch hostage. No more free money for the NGOs, no more libtards on the Supreme Court.<br /><br />Like I wrote above, the Silicon Valley and media sectors are the most insanely opposed to realignment -- making it their main goal to deplatform people from the left who want to welcome the Deplorables into their coalition in order to pursue new programs for the masses.<br /><br />Wall Street -- if you're listening -- de-financialize the libtard discourse cops who reported Aimee Terese to the Twitter censors.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-6403290853604396202020-09-22T15:48:29.315-04:002020-09-22T15:48:29.315-04:00I think he'll win, though with a lower share o...I think he'll win, though with a lower share of the popular vote than last time, due to amped up turnout among psycho polarized libs in large safe-blue states like California.<br /><br />Last time a Republican lost the popular vote but won the election (2000), the GOP went all in to amp up turnout in their own big safe state -- Texas -- so that the re-election (in 2004) showed a win of the popular vote as well.<br /><br />I don't see that this time, whether in Texas, Ohio, or Florida. So losing the popular vote seems guaranteed.<br /><br />As for the actual election, there's only one previous case of a disjunctive phase lasting two elections -- 1852 and 1856. The Jacksonian era should've been over by 1856, but the psycho polarizers on the opposition prevented that for another 4 years, and only realigned in 1860. Similar to the anti-realignment push by the entire Democrat party, from leftists to moderates, during Trump's 1st term.<br /><br />But even in the 1856 election, which was the very end of the line for Jacksonianism -- they actually picked up a new state, one that was almost entirely a lock for their *rivals* during the whole era. Kentucky only voted Democrat in 1828, but was a bastion of the Whig opposition for the rest of the era -- until 1856, when it went Democrat.<br /><br />That would be like Minnesota going to Trump in 2020. The utterly unthinkable -- but not signifying the final nail in the coffin for the opposition party. But the very furthest that the pendulum could swing in the ongoing direction, before reversing and heading the other way for decades.<br /><br />Most leftists have an apocalyptic view of Trump winning the Rust Belt (especially if he picks up Minnesota this time). I.e., that's the end of the Democrats -- or non-Republicans -- appeal to that part of the country, to whites, to the working-class, etc.<br /><br />But really it's like Kentucky going Democrat in 1856, or Texas going Republican in 1928 (Hoover's unbelievable landslide, when Texas used to be solid Democrat).<br /><br />The left thinks that once an extreme point is reached, it's a steady-state, like growth that has a saturation level that it doesn't move from afterwards.<br /><br />But the dynamics are not that way -- there are cycles, booms and busts, etc. Reaching an unbelievable extreme point means the pendulum is very shortly going to swing in the other direction for a long time. So, we're actually seeing the GOP being the weakest it's ever been -- just like under Hoover, notwithstanding his landslide victory that picked up a thought-to-be ungettable state.<br /><br />However, the libtards have their own greedy incorrect view -- that the pendulum reverses all on its own, that they're entitled to it, it's the cosmic karmic scales finally going back into balance.<br /><br />That's not how it works either -- they have to actively change things in their own party, and their appeal to former members of their rivals, in order to swing the pendulum the other way. No more austerity -- promise free shit. No more wokeness -- muzzle your culture warriors. No more shitting on flyover country -- give them stuff, and treat them like decent human beings and fellow citizens.<br /><br />We're clearly not at that place right now, which is why I say the realignment is delayed until at least 2024. But it can stay delayed as long as the opposition refuses to surrender the old battles and fight new ones that will cause mass defections from their old rivals. That could even take until 2028, with as psycho as the left and libs have become by now.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-80593687358151792412020-09-22T14:36:06.103-04:002020-09-22T14:36:06.103-04:00How likely do you think it is that Trump will win ...How likely do you think it is that Trump will win reelection?Crocketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438528258855889431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-7789280991118795722020-09-21T14:05:11.613-04:002020-09-21T14:05:11.613-04:00Working-class people in the Dem coalition are gene...Working-class people in the Dem coalition are generally government workers and those in the service sector who serve informational and financial workers.<br /><br />One thing I've wondered: how many working-class service-sector workers, in services that cater to Dems, went over to Trump in 2016? I remember reading that most Hollywood film crews were pro-Trump(we're talking about the guys who lug around the equipment and props). That's a service sector that generally serves Democratic voters(who watch more movies). How many entry-level workers for Starbucks or Panera Bread voted for Trump?<br /><br />We should analyze what service-sector businesses vote Republican vs. Democrat.<br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-6237720132926030432020-09-20T16:38:42.763-04:002020-09-20T16:38:42.763-04:00David Kaiser said a couple years ago that poorly o...David Kaiser said a couple years ago that poorly organized "bands" ostensibly representing various causes would likely be responsible for most political violence in late Neo-lib America due to the advanced corrosion of communal spirit. and lack of inspiring leadership (antif-fa in fact explicitly rejects the notion that anyone leads the movement). Expecting too much coherent/well-focused action is probably asking too much at this point (just listen to these "educated" idiots shrieking obscenities and cliches at the top of their lungs toward the police, "non-approved" press, and anyone else they want to eject from "their" streets).<br /><br />By contrast, the Progressive era movements saw much greater in-group solidarity and consistent hierarchy (and the New Deal era radicals often laid out a series of relatively well-thought out demands regarding a society that would be more equitable and honest).<br /><br />Why don't more of them gather in white suburbs or small towns? I don't think a lot of them feel safe there, and in any event, they are gutless cowards anyway, preferring projectiles and lasers over direct melee combat. And for the record, the Trumptards/Reaganite survivalist loons aren't much better, preferring to sit in their basements and garages rather than forcefully clean the streets up like the purifying Progressives and stoically reliable New Dealers did (back in the 60's, law enforcement and traditionalist groups prided themselves on claiming the scalps of bombers, vandals, looters, and drug addicts). In theory, the New Right should be the stronger force, however, Reaganite individualism and hedonism robs a group of the solidarity that's needed to get headway.<br /><br />One other thing: urban areas are full of non-residential property to burn and loot. The plausible deniability regarding "it's only property damage and nobody was really hurt" is much less convincing in the suburbs. Suburban anarchy would inevitably do lots of damage to residential property.Ferylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336057631877941839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-311654863826898412020-09-20T14:08:05.384-04:002020-09-20T14:08:05.384-04:00I think its that the Democrat blacks resent any ac...I think its that the Democrat blacks resent any accommodation with workers from the materialist sector, who are generally white working-class. They want to eject any materialist industry interests, and protect the traditional(post-New Deal) Dem patronage network(government workers and service workers, no manual laborers).<br /><br />Remember, its the people on the bottom who are most passionate about purifying a political coalition - because any deviation hurts their lives the most. <br /><br />Its funny how the upper middle-class liberals("yuppies") can't figure out what's going on. "Why are you guys angry? Is it because of the NEETs???" Many Baby Boom Democrats are apparently totally stuck in the New Deal era, not recognizing obvious tension with the white-working class.Curtisnoreply@blogger.com