tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post304936370222064786..comments2024-03-27T23:28:20.274-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Cracks in the Zionist-Saudi jihadist alliance: Israel-1st culture warriors vs. Arabist Pentagonagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-61423908878480637412017-05-26T14:13:17.431-04:002017-05-26T14:13:17.431-04:00And now I realize I did say "worldwide",...And now I realize I did say "worldwide", which was a mistake, because I forgot exactly what the original post said.Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-69328660092735424122017-05-26T14:07:13.425-04:002017-05-26T14:07:13.425-04:00I was referencing this post you made about Europea...I was referencing this post you made about European homicide rates, and just projected it to Turkey and the Mideast, since they are close by(which may have been a bad idea):<br /><br />"<br />Somewhere between 1450 and 1550 the European homicide rate began a secular decline that continues through today. However, there have been several reversals of that decline: from ca. 1580 to 1630 (the Elizabethan-Jacobean period), 1780 to 1830 (the Romantic-Gothic period), in some places from 1900 to 1930 (the Jazz Age), and finally from 1960 to 1990 (the New Wave Age)."<br /><br />http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/05/more-book-burning-in-falling-crime-eras.html<br /><br />Seems to imply that at least for Europe, it was falling-crime throughout the most of the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries.<br /><br />Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-44414490558159302102017-05-26T13:45:24.700-04:002017-05-26T13:45:24.700-04:00There is no data about worldwide crime rates back ...There is no data about worldwide crime rates back then.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-76090498091550395742017-05-26T09:43:15.099-04:002017-05-26T09:43:15.099-04:00err, make that 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries.err, make that 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries.Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-1192297847695225432017-05-26T09:42:18.993-04:002017-05-26T09:42:18.993-04:00It does seem like the Persians were the real domin...It does seem like the Persians were the real dominant force in Mideast history. Ottoman dominance may have been a fluke caused by falling crime rates - worldwide crime fell for most of the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries I believe, making cocooned populations prefer bureaucratic rule. When crime began rising in earnest circa 1900, the Ottomans dissolved not too long afterwards.Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-57880527153368042422017-05-21T22:27:58.499-04:002017-05-21T22:27:58.499-04:00Wow, Judith Miller kvetching like crazy on Judge J...Wow, Judith Miller kvetching like crazy on Judge Jeanine just now, about the administration favoring Saudi over Israel on the trip and slighting Israel in general.<br /><br />It's official: (((they))) know about "Friendship ended with Zionists, Now jihadists are my best friend."<br /><br />Judge Jeanine said why not be content with the common anti-Iranian outcome of favoring the Saudis, and Miller said "Yeah but" Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.<br /><br />Ha, she's stuck in the Bush years, when that was still a fig-leaf cover for our foreign policy there. Remember how Tillerson just said we don't care what a government gets up to (like supporting jihadists), as long as they're on our side in the geopolitical struggle for the balance of power?<br /><br />So that "only democracy" argument is going to go nowhere with the Pentagon and oil groups, who actually run the show, no matter how much traction the slogan has among Cultural Rightists.<br /><br />Under the pressure, Miller forgot to give the "birthplace of Judeo-Christian values" rationalization, since she like most Jews doesn't care about God, Christ, the Temple, or any of that religious stuff. How are you going to continue tricking the goyim without mentioning "Muh Judeo-Christian values," Judith?<br /><br />The Jews are going to dig themselves so deep on this one, and that's only going to antagonize the Pentagon further. If the Zionists don't watch it, they're going to find themselves the next secular regime in the M-E that Uncle Sam launches airstrikes against, for not behaving like a subservient client state. In 10 years, Bibi will be the new Saddam in American propaganda.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-91345851334317725962017-05-21T16:18:01.216-04:002017-05-21T16:18:01.216-04:00"Don Walker @FreedomFight01 2h2 hours ago
M..."Don Walker <b>@FreedomFight01</b> 2h2 hours ago<br /><br />Must be killing liberals to see him being treated better than Obama was."<br /><br />Heh, the lie-bury-us-alls are just jealous that the Party of Lincoln has more Bedouin jihadist friends than they do. Maybe if they weren't so obsessed with their conspiracy theories about 9/11 being a Saudi job, they'd have tolerant Gulf allies of their own.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-10421511944949629492017-05-21T15:54:45.357-04:002017-05-21T15:54:45.357-04:00Only the most loyal of allies would blow up one of...Only the most loyal of allies would blow up one of our symbols of finance as well as the building that houses the DoD, kill thousands of our citizens and help spread jihadism to such a degree that we're now told that a monthly snackbarring or visit by the Truck of Peace is part and parcel with living in the western world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-36960646440299784222017-05-21T13:57:25.590-04:002017-05-21T13:57:25.590-04:00Boomertards switching to Saudis as ARE GREATEST AL...Boomertards switching to Saudis as ARE GREATEST ALLY?<br /><br />"The Saudi's are more supportive, Patriotic and team players than any of the modern day Democrats"<br /><br />Top Facebook comment on that neo-con speech that the Pentagon forced Trump to read.<br /><br />The lie-burials HATE arming the custodians of the Two Holiest Cities. That's right, folks, Dumbocraps are the REAL Islamophobes!agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-25735439703304987292017-05-21T02:36:55.426-04:002017-05-21T02:36:55.426-04:00I am concerned we are getting closer to the U.S at...I am concerned we are getting closer to the U.S attempting regime change in Syria. If Russia defends Assad I would be cheering for Russia to defeat our troops. Does this make me a traitor? I really don't want to be. I strongly favor secularism over Saudi style Islam and I wish the U.S shared this perspective but the deep state clearly has a neocon orientation. The worst case scenario is we start WW3 over this. If we attempt to overthrow Assad I can't imagine the Pentagon backing down no matter how dire the consequences are.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15373560420508884302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-63307678054496792802017-05-21T00:10:01.773-04:002017-05-21T00:10:01.773-04:00I’ve heard it explained by Jim Rickards, who I thi...I’ve heard it explained by Jim Rickards, who I think can be insightful. The combination of China surpassing the US as Saudi Arabia’s chief buyer of oil, and Obama’s pivot away from SA to Iran, increased the likelihood that the Saudis would move off the petrodollar system and start pricing their oil in a different currency. That would lower international demand for the dollar, causing its devaluation, which would coincide with the Arab kingdoms dumping their $5-10 trillion in dollar reserves, resulting in dollar inflation and rising interest rates for new public debt issuance.<br /><br />Rickards doesn’t necessarily think this will happen immediately. Before Trump, he saw it as increasing in likelihood due to Obama’s positioning, and due to Russia and China’s discussion of the idea of a sort of Eurasian trade union that uses a non-dollar currency for trade, including energy.<br /><br />Obviously Trump has re-pivoted back to the Saudis, ensuring that they invest their dollar reserves back into the US, and pushing this Arab NATO idea in an attempt to roll back Iran’s sphere of influence. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-70552854491615861252017-05-20T19:56:46.196-04:002017-05-20T19:56:46.196-04:00The Saudis are not our friends and the Iranians ar...The Saudis are not our friends and the Iranians are not our enemies.Robert What?https://www.blogger.com/profile/03863449539859132763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-71064838777747723262017-05-20T19:53:52.805-04:002017-05-20T19:53:52.805-04:00" "well we can't just tell Saudi Ara..." "well we can't just tell Saudi Arabia to get fucked because otherwise they'll crash the US dollar" shit."<br /><br />I've only heard a few people ever mention it, and they were on the conspiracy / libertarian side, so I'll discount it without knowing what their full argument is.<br /><br />Otherwise it would be one of those things that every knowledgeable person regarding the M-E would know about and refer to, whether they were pro or con the theory.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-11670271001103562452017-05-20T18:34:28.132-04:002017-05-20T18:34:28.132-04:00You're confusing distant genetic lineage with ...You're confusing distant genetic lineage with current ethnicity or nationality. The Qajars were not from a foreign independently powerful nation, and so Iran was not under foreign national control during their dynasty.<br /><br />To judge foreign control, just answer: what other nation is controlling the nation in question?<br /><br />The Pahlavi dynasty following the Qajars was not a client state of a foreign power until the 1950s.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-3789172128520967362017-05-20T17:32:51.059-04:002017-05-20T17:32:51.059-04:00It's worth noting that Iran was under other pe...It's worth noting that Iran was under other peoples sphere of influences more than it influenced from the 1800s up until the shah was overthrown in 1979.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-65577325558880731552017-05-20T17:09:24.889-04:002017-05-20T17:09:24.889-04:00I'd also ask too if there's anything to be...I'd also ask too if there's anything to be worried about in regards to the whole "well we can't just tell Saudi Arabia to get fucked because otherwise they'll crash the US dollar" shit. I wouldn't claim to know enough about how any of that works to know if that's a legitimate danger or no; I've heard the fears of the Chinese "crashing the economy" for instance are way overblown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-7889893344442276952017-05-20T16:09:05.131-04:002017-05-20T16:09:05.131-04:00Bringing him up does make me think that one of the...Bringing him up does make me think that one of the biggest obstances we have is overcoming the Cult of St. Ronald. He's practically a messianic figure to the entrenched powers (especially the Neocons) to an utterly absurd degree and as long as the GOP still prays at the altar of Reagan it seems like we're never going to be able to move on in terms of... everything really. The Neo Cold War mindset regarding foreign policy, the ball-tickling of the banks domestically, standing aside as foreigners from south of the border take jobs while bringing only crime and the erosion of our national identity (and our neighborhoods and towns; look at how they've pushed blacks out of Compton in only 20 or so years).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-16486252818706215712017-05-20T14:58:31.177-04:002017-05-20T14:58:31.177-04:00Back to the Saudi deal, I'm noticing the retur...Back to the Saudi deal, I'm noticing the return of another cuckservative tendency -- fetishizing the style, appearance, and performance side of things rather than the material outcomes.<br /><br />"MELANIA WITHOUT HEADSCARF IN SAUDI ARABIA! (btw, we also gave hundreds of billions of heavy arms to the jihadist medieval monarchy that blew up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11...)"<br /><br />The Establishment is happy to feed us a few troll pellets as long as they get to continue, or escalate, the business as usual that we fervently voted against.<br /><br />"Yeah, Reagan just sent however-many millions of good-paying jobs overseas, and amnestied millions of illegal invaders -- but did you see how he BTFO that snotnosed liberal reporter at the press conference?! REKT"<br /><br />If substantial change is not possible, we might as well be thankful for a troll President who will call out the fake news etc. But there's too much discontent over the fundamentals in this country for the popular anger to be dissipated through the style-obsessed release valve. It's just delaying the inevitable revolt, which will be worse the longer it is pent up.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-2889024608485933342017-05-20T14:34:42.417-04:002017-05-20T14:34:42.417-04:00For all we criticize the cuckservatives about feti...For all we criticize the cuckservatives about fetishizing the abstract process of politics rather than actual power or force to get one's way in the outcomes, we've committed the same fallacy by assuming that just because Trump won the election, there's some dispassionate higher power who will grant him, fair-and-square, the authority to set the agenda in Congress or even within the Executive agencies, to fire and hire whom he pleases, and to rule without an attempted witch hunt by Deep State to drive him out of office in the very first months of his term.<br /><br />But there is no all-powerful blind justice god who empowers "the person who won the election" with Presidential authority and legitimacy. It's all a great big Darwinian might-makes-right struggle among the factions within the earthly elites -- Pentagon, Wall Street, etc. -- and if the election-winner doesn't have the backing of some of these groups, he is only a figurehead.<br /><br />That is turning the Trump movement into more of a popular revolt against the elites writ large, since he has no leverage other than his massive group of supporters who can mobilize into action. Hopefully this will grow to include not just the hardcore redhats, but also the normal GOP loyalist voters, once they see how little progress is made on immigration "despite" having control of both houses of Congress, conservative-friendly Supreme Court, and a rare Republican President who explicitly ran on building a wall, deporting the illegals, no amnesty or path toward citizenship, terminating birthright citizenship, and banning Muslims from entering the country.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-27279206160525202782017-05-20T14:05:26.188-04:002017-05-20T14:05:26.188-04:00It shows how big of a mistake we made in assuming ...It shows how big of a mistake we made in assuming nationalism, rather than econ populism, would be the big theme for the Trump era. I wrote a post on "don't expect populism unless there's a nationalist angle to it".<br /><br />We weren't taking into account the powerful interest groups whose primary goal is continuing our multicultural globalist empire, and that we have little political capital to push for our goals in DC. Especially going up against the Pentagon, where we no longer have civilian control over the Defense or Homeland Security depts, or NSC. So there will be no wall, no removal of millions of illegals, and therefore eventual amnesty and de facto citizenship.<br /><br />We catapaulted Trump over the castle walls all alone and barely armed. We have to do our damndest to break through the gates ourselves and help him out. Otherwise he's effectively a hostage of the Establishment.<br /><br />I saw that thing about gayface globalist Jew Goldman Sachs boy Steve Mnuchin saying flatly that they don't support the latter-day Glass-Steagall anymore.<br /><br />We've managed to get big concessions on trade and industry -- including the only silver lining in this "arm the jihadists" deal in Saudi, the investment in Rust Belt states. But the Rust Belt didn't vote based on Wall Street issues, Glass-Steagall, etc., so econ populism will be limited to trade and re-industrialization, rather than a broad phenomenon that would also touch on popping the higher ed bubble / student loan debt and the like.<br /><br />And the only reason we're getting something on trade is because of the Rust Belt voters who can deliver the White House to the GOP. The Establishment has to make them happy enough to continue voting Republican, but no more.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-92105092403569702017-05-20T13:23:47.998-04:002017-05-20T13:23:47.998-04:00I have generally avoided black-pilling these past ...I have generally avoided black-pilling these past few months, but I do find it disconcerting just how quickly the classic Republican special interests have solidified their hold over this administration. In the first 4 months, Goldman Sachs took over the WH economics department (and just quashed the idea of re-instating Glass-Steagall), and the defense contractors just scored big with this Saudi arms deal.<br /><br />I get that Trump has to work within the confines of the Republican establishment to some degree, but I am left wondering just how much nationalism we are really going to see. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-85299480489502168642017-05-20T05:23:04.263-04:002017-05-20T05:23:04.263-04:00It's a cartographic shoah:
"A short vide...It's a cartographic shoah:<br /><br />"A short video promoting President Donald Trump’s first foreign trip to the Middle East and Europe posted to the White House YouTube channel showed a map of Israel that excluded disputed territories the Gaza Strip, West Bank and Golan Heights."<br /><br />https://www.rt.com/usa/389024-israel-video-white-house-borders/agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-43186855687791968322017-05-19T20:08:21.969-04:002017-05-19T20:08:21.969-04:00It's fine to point out the extent of Jewish in...It's fine to point out the extent of Jewish influence in the sectors it controls -- education, media, entertainment, banking / finance, etc.<br /><br />But seeing a Jewish control over the military and Pentagon? If it's chafing about aligning with Israel, that's fine. But talking about the Jewish state being the driver of our policy in the M-E is totally ignorant of history.<br /><br />It also prevents them from breaking through to the normies. Normies accept "Jews in Hollywood" or "Jews in Wall Street," but "the Pentagon is the shabbas goy army for Israel"? Now you lost them, for sounding like a conspiracy nut (and one they'll associated with hitluh).agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-58748070619286040222017-05-19T19:21:20.711-04:002017-05-19T19:21:20.711-04:00It shows how airheaded the alt-right is to fixate ...It shows how airheaded the alt-right is to fixate on Jewish conspiracy.Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-89072209060005480302017-05-19T14:52:02.207-04:002017-05-19T14:52:02.207-04:00don't forget that the pentagon and congress co...don't forget that the pentagon and congress condemned israel attacking iraq's reactors back in the 80s. that's something that the general public has forgotten about. and israeli cooperation with sunni elements is still largely covert to the extent it happens at all.lexie88https://www.blogger.com/profile/02193817657084020002noreply@blogger.com