tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post1943138488339989921..comments2024-03-27T23:28:20.274-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Rise and fall of metal parallels that of pop music broadlyagnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-43664003596505477702010-09-08T21:30:41.754-04:002010-09-08T21:30:41.754-04:00Nerds? Who else do you think listens to it! I gues...Nerds? Who else do you think listens to it! I guess power metal better fits that charge, but that's just a step removed. As for the term itself, <a href="http://rockcriticsarchives.com/interviews/geoffbarton/geoffbarton.html" rel="nofollow">Geoff Barton</a> is credited with inventing it, but himself credits a co-worker. Raven at the time described themselves as "athletic rock", but that didn't catch on.<br /><br />Googlefights shows nwobhm beating out "80s metal" or "british metal" or maiden/priest sound/style. It loses out to "iron maiden", "judas priest" and a number of metal genres (though it beats some as well).TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-65344161012309586322010-09-06T04:06:37.065-04:002010-09-06T04:06:37.065-04:00That's not referred to as the New Wave of Brit...That's not referred to as the New Wave of British Heavy Metal except by nerds. You can tell because it's a transparent excuse to use yet another unnecessary, ugly, and clarity-destroying acronym.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-22992757519477648802010-09-04T21:21:49.357-04:002010-09-04T21:21:49.357-04:00The "Maiden and Priest sound" is a genre...The "Maiden and Priest sound" is a genre referred to as the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. They were generally faster than the "heavy" metal of the early/mid 70s had been (NWOBHM actually starts in the late 70s). Metal seemed to be dying off in the late 70s and NWOBHM was a revival. Spinal Tap is supposed to be a has-been 70s band still chugging away in the 80s. The Stonehenge Gimmick is patterned after something that happened to Black Sabbath when they promoting their terrible album with Ian Gillan (though in real-life the prop was way too large rather than too small). Musically Spinal Tap tends to sound like the proto-metal of a band like Alice Cooper rather than the refined for-metal-fans-only blues-free sound of NWOBHM. Some of the filmmakers did spend time with the NWOBHM band Saxon though.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-90648165397390667862010-09-02T19:46:27.840-04:002010-09-02T19:46:27.840-04:00Here is the decade breakdown for a 2003 rolling st...Here is the decade breakdown for a 2003 rolling stone top 500 albums list: <br /><br />1950s 4 4%<br />1960s 37 37%<br />1970s 42 42%<br />1980s 11 11%<br />1990s 5 5%<br />2000s 1 1%<br /><br />http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=7<br /><br />There was a clear peak in the 60s-70s with a decline thereafter.<br /><br />Part of that is US based classic rock conservatism. Here is a 2003 UK list:<br /><br />1950s 0 0%<br />1960s 15 15%<br />1970s 30 30%<br />1980s 17 17%<br />1990s 25 25%<br />2000s 13 13%<br /><br />http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=1<br /><br />This list of top jazz albums gives a strong 60's peak:<br /><br />http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&genres=jazz&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=lemmy cautionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-34629962276398912232010-09-02T17:19:37.086-04:002010-09-02T17:19:37.086-04:00Interesting to see that there are no nu-metal albu...Interesting to see that there are no nu-metal albums on there. It could be a function of the age of the rankers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-52332636211070505112010-09-01T20:31:43.454-04:002010-09-01T20:31:43.454-04:00A great metal song that time forgot, Black Sabbath...A great metal song that time forgot, Black Sabbath's, "The Mob Rules"<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts6YTeSEv0Y<br /><br /><br />Im not, and never have been a metal guy, but if anyone can listen to that tune and not feel an adrenaline rush and a surge in testosterone, they are dead. <br /><br /><br />Kiss had a metalesque song called "Lick It Up" that I used to like when I was a kid also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-54964351021998742882010-09-01T12:43:05.193-04:002010-09-01T12:43:05.193-04:00I would say the late 80's (1986-1989) was char...I would say the late 80's (1986-1989) was characterized by the late 80's dance pop (Janet Jackson, Fine Young Cannibals, etc.) that was played a lot in clubs and on the radio (e.g. SoCal's Power 106). I rather liked this music because it was a good time in my life.<br /><br />Grunge was early 90's. I never experienced it since I was in Japan during all of that time. Rap became mainstream starting in 1990 (and I did not like it at all).<br /><br />I did like the House/Techno/Rave dance music that became popular starting in the mid 90's.<br /><br />There's another music trend you should be aware of, which is British Pop. BritPop is popular during the feel good times in the U.S. (early-mid 1960's, 1980's) but is not popular at all during angst-driven times (late 1960's through 1970's, 1990's through today).kurt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/02101147267959016924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-20588352402005692562010-09-01T02:53:03.842-04:002010-09-01T02:53:03.842-04:00the chart looks right to me too.the chart looks right to me too.Razib Khanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09555115542918519593noreply@blogger.com