tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post1801222488993336564..comments2024-03-28T21:56:51.675-04:00Comments on Face to Face: Female accessories -- for attracting boys or intimidating other girls? agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-52890070750862644902012-11-27T13:02:58.032-05:002012-11-27T13:02:58.032-05:00Violence is only one dimension of male-male compet...Violence is only one dimension of male-male competition. Historians of violence point to the decline of men hanging out in public spaces as a key source of the decline in violence.<br /><br />So I'm not so sure that young males today are less violent in a public rowdy context. It's just that they stay holed up in front of their Xbox all day long.<br /><br />Guys who work long hours to make themselves more marketable as provider males are also engaging in intense male-male competition over mates.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-63959803415818680662012-11-27T11:54:10.721-05:002012-11-27T11:54:10.721-05:00That's an interesting theory, but I'm not ...That's an interesting theory, but I'm not sure if I agree. The big hole is that men actually engaged in more intense competitive behavior during high crime times, i.e. beating each other up. <br /><br />-Curtis Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-56225824136240972222012-11-26T22:49:31.538-05:002012-11-26T22:49:31.538-05:00"why does falling-crime make people more same..."why does falling-crime make people more same-sex competitive/hierarchical, as opposed to "sexy"?"<br /><br />One possibility is that when people are more promiscuous, they aren't fighting with each other over such exclusive mating "rights". Why should two dudes fight over a girl if they can both get a short-term fling with her?<br /><br />Then when mating is more monogamous, there's more at stake -- exclusive ownership of the girl. With greater stakes comes fiercer competition.<br /><br />Ditto for girls competing with each other over boyfriends / husbands.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-44542661087366508452012-11-26T22:43:25.776-05:002012-11-26T22:43:25.776-05:00"how do flip-flops fit into this?"
lol,..."how do flip-flops fit into this?"<br /><br />lol, yeah we keep hearing about how awful '80s fashions were, but they were a lot more put-together than today, where girls wear baggy sweatpants and flip-flops.<br /><br />I don't see them fitting in with the military or intimidating angle. They do work as part of the larger plan to keep the boys away, though.<br /><br />Maybe the flip-flops are the closest they can get in hot weather to recreating the sound of boots while stomping around to intimidate other girls. They don't have a hard knocking sound, but they are annoyingly loud and rhythmic -- clack, clack, clack, clack! That's the best they can do for "outta my way, bitches!" in the summer heat.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-74660504905746862982012-11-26T18:24:51.061-05:002012-11-26T18:24:51.061-05:00"And in reality, not hypothetically, girls in..."And in reality, not hypothetically, girls in the '80s weren't mega-sluts, so the necessary trade-off wouldn't raise promiscuity to intolerable levels."<br /><br />Certainly, popular media from the era is not nearly as crass or blatantly sexual as it is today. 60s-80s rockers sang about how in love they were with a woman they wanted to have sex with; as opposed to the "don't trust a hoe" attitude of modern rappers. <br /><br />-CurtisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-72112527775900517922012-11-26T17:13:48.683-05:002012-11-26T17:13:48.683-05:00Lots of directions you could go with this.
First,...Lots of directions you could go with this.<br /><br />First, how do flip-flops fit into this?<br /><br />Second, from what I've seen, and as you've documented, the same thing is going on with men, i.e. men are focused more on competing with each other than appealing directly to women.<br /><br />For instance, you mentioned how men have shorter haircuts now, which are less attractive to women. Teenage boys no longer go around shirtless, displaying their bodies to interested girls; jeans are baggy or nondescript instead of form-fitting; facial hair and goatees are more popular.<br /> <br />On facebook, men and women have pictures of themselves with all their friends, in a party atmosphere. Rarely does anyone these days just have a pic of his or her face.<br /><br />You see this with the whole fratboy subculture/"bros before hos". The emphasis is on trying to dominate or endear yourself to other men, rather than appeal directly to women. PUA obsesses over the idea of the "alpha male" who dominates other men(which itself is a ridiculous concept).<br /><br />Why do you think this is, i.e. why does falling-crime make people more same-sex competitive/hierarchical, as opposed to "sexy"? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19346366.post-82274836780954326022012-11-26T15:20:12.100-05:002012-11-26T15:20:12.100-05:00Ballet flats and trainers seem dominant amongst th...Ballet flats and trainers seem dominant amongst the girls in their twenties that I know (I'm not fashion conscious, but the older women I know have commented in my earshot about the former). Perhaps they want to look like athletes or something?<br /><br />Re: makeup trends, I'm sure some manufacturers have tons of data on this. I'm not really too aware of it I must admit, other than the trend being for Korea to be the primary market for new items, heavy users, &c. (perhaps in contrast to Latin America and places like that?).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com